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5-13-2008-06

Step 1:  Identify the Problem.  The City Manager is wasting tax payer money. Most citizens of Iron Mountain realize this.

Step 2:  Solve the Problem.  Get rid of the City Manager.  We are in the process of doing this.

Step 3:  Create a City government that operates within the law and the financial reality of this city.  Create a realistic plan.

Step 4:  Implement Plan.

Step 5:  Receive feedback from the general public on if the plan is working.

Step 6:  Start over on step 1.

As you can see, in any simple problem solving model, there are steps to solve a problem.  We are currently on Step 2.  The writer of post 5-13-2008-04 has obviously never solved a problem.  He or she wants to know what step 3 is.  Its hard to move on to step 3 when you haven't finished with step 2.  The opposition to the recall wants to bog down step 2, that way we will never get to step 3.  Its that simple!!!


5-13-2008-05

Inasmuch as faith in purported federal and/or state investigations of Marquart et al persists on this site (cf 5-13-2008-01), it apparently is necessary to clarify the goals and urgency of the recall movement.

Although I was not in attendance, I have been given to understand that the TIFA Board on May 12 adopted a budget that does not provide for a pass-through to the City's rapidly dwindling General Fund, but does include Marquart's recommendations for both "land acquisition" (i.e. the Mariucci-Varda-Indian-casino project) and the Hydraulic Falls Road water/sewer project.

It does not matter whether there are federal and/or state investigations of Marquart and/or his cronies, unless they come to fruition before this money is spent. The ultimate goal of the recall movement is not to remove the three targeted Council members or even to remove Marquart. Those are means to a greater end: salvaging what little is left of the City Treasury (including the city's portion of TIFA funds) and applying it to its rightful and proper purposes. If appropriations are made in accordance with the budget adopted yesterday, the city's bankruptcy three or four years hence becomes almost arithmetically inevitable. Once that money is gone, it doesn't matter whether Marquart or anyone else subsequently goes to jail. Our taxes will skyrocket (because Headlee limits can be set aside for municipalities in receivership or in default on binding legal obligations); our streets and alleys will not be maintained or repaired; our water and cable bills will not be reduced; and promises made to people who have spent their adult lives in fires, in sewers, in garbage, and amidst criminals on our behalf will be broken. The vicarious thrill of seeing Marquart dressed in orange doesn't compensate for all of that.

Do not imagine that a belatedly unveiled investigation will recover the money. You can't sell pipes in the ground for the cash invested in them, and land will be reconveyed to innocent or untouchable third parties long before the government catches up with what is happening.

The fate of this community is, for now, in the hands of Judge Barglind and probably after that in the hands of the Michigan Court of Appeals. If they do the right thing, quickly, our fate will be in our own hands. That's where it belongs, not with out-of-town cops and prosecutors who, if they're watching at all, won't have to live with the consequences of their tardiness if their help comes too late.


5-13-2008-04

The three challengers plan went like this:
Stack the city council with your "groupies" : family members, retired former employees and vocal old-timer politicians and make your voice appear larger than it actually is "shout" loud enough and your message will be bound to be heard.
How is a group of supporters for the other side any different than the tactics of the challengers?
Please,Please tell me just how(ok,after you fix the wrongs of the past)you plan to move forward and what your ideas are...I have heard ENOUGH about how you are going to fix the past. TELL ME WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO AFTER YOU FIX IT!!!!!

5-13-2008-03

I am just Ms. Average citizen in Iron Mountain.  Like most us trying to deal with rising costs.  If you are against, for or undecided about the recall and you honestly have no agenda, please tell me why would anyone pay thousands of dollars to retain a Council position in Iron Mountain.  If you are really being honest, how does the means justify the end, for a $500 a year position?  Just a little food for thought for those of you who think like I do.

5-13-2008-02

In spite of what Mr. Marquart keeps telling the media, it is he making all the crooked moves. He gets to place the blame on the council (and rightly so) because they approve everything. In fact, I'm surprised the remaining four still back Marquart after the reports that make it clear that he places ALL responsibility on them; making himself look like some innocent pawn in their plans. 

Poster # 5-12-2008-03 wants to know the newer council members plans for the future of the city, instead of what has gone wrong in the past. How can this city move forward until the those past wrongs are rectified? How can they make plans for anything while the city is sinking in debt and all of the funds that once existed to maintain and replace have been robbed? How can they present a plan until they have a competent manager to work with? No big company moves forward without a competent CEO. How can they present anything when they are being lied to, just like the rest of us?

Until we get a new manager in place and repair what has been destroyed, there can be no true progress. The past wrongs are not behind us. They are still with us; with many of them on-going. Unfortunately, growth is the least of our worries right now. We need to get the basics back on tract before looking ahead. Look at our roads. Look at our equipment. Sure we all want advancement and jobs and growth; but we need to be practical and take care of what already exists first. Marquart and his cohorts have failed to do this.

Personally, I see the vision of the newly elected council members. They want to get us back to being functional as a city. They want to get us a manager that works for ALL of the citizens, not a select few; and who uses our tax dollars to provide for every one of us, not just the downtown and the elite.

I don't care about downtown festivals and pretty lighting while the streets I drive on are in such deplorable condition. A council cannot bring jobs to a city. They can only work at providing a functional city that attracts business to locate here. Marquart wants to use tax dollars to pay for private business and industry. We need our tax dollars being spent on services for all of the people.

Whether it be through this recall attempt or the next regular election, the people want a change in council members and they want Marquart gone. Sometimes re-organization is necessary before there can be new vision and direction. It's been said before, and I support it: I am for anyone who wants John Marquart gone and against anyone who supports him. I don't know any of the council people personally (the old or the new); but I have experienced enough of Mr. Marquart to know that I want him out of here! If the older council members want him to stay, then I don't want them as my representatives.

I lived in this city through many managers and more councils than I can count. If these past several years are considered progress, you can keep it. I've never seen our city in such a mess!


5-13-2008-01

The four incumbent members, the City Manager and their financial backers have a very simple model. 
 
It goes like this:
 
Stack the council meeting with newly found "groupies."  Joan Game, Virginia Felippa. Chris Leonard, Jane Santini, Terese Fortier, etc.  Repeat the same theme over and over again.  The theme: Let's all cooperate, let's keep up the "continued progress", the newly elected members are negative.  Pound the theme endlessly. Never mind that it is mindless, boring, and repetitive.
 
Before you can continue progress, you must have some progress to begin with.  No four year period in Iron Mountain history has had less progress than the one we have just endured.
 
Everything good that happened occurred in spite of, not because of, city government.  All of the new construction of the last four years including Holiday Express, Simone Agency, Begres Chiropractic, Walgreen's, McDonalds, Subway stores, and many other projects in the area of remodeling faced endless hassles and frustrations in dealing with city government.  Miraculously, the incumbents use them as examples of continued progress, despite all the obstacles them placed in front of them.
 
Meanwhile, city government became ever more bureaucratic, costly, and saw the financial condition of the city deteriorated at an alarming rate.
 
There is a cancer running rampant in our city.  John Marquart is that cancer.  Unfortunately, he had company in Doug Rigoni and Ken Tousignant, but worse, the remnants of that regime, four of them, still sit on the council.  They are totally under the spell of Marquart, like the groupies mentioned above, and do not care to listen to new suggestions. 
 
All new ideas have come from the new members.  They snuffed out a $1,200,000 water and sewer project that was solved for $35,000. They have also renewed discussions in totally neglected areas of concern to the citizens including needed road and alley work, and are working on correcting the chlorinated water situation that has been simmering for years now. They have opened serious dialogue to solve the fire department scheduling problems that the city manager has failed to address.
 
The new members have been the only ones to address the critical financial issues that will send the city to the edge of bankruptcy in a couple of years.
 
Let me ask a simple question -  What suggestions can any readers of this post remember that Eden Caudill, Dan Burke, Robin Tchokreff, Jeff Van Leanne or John Marquart have developed and implemented that you can look back on and honestly state moved the city forward. 
 
Spare me from mention of the Main Street or Cool Cities, please.  So far, except for a few events in the downtown parking lots, they have been meaningless.
 
Spare mention of the Mariucci-Vardar Convention Center project, too.  Nothing has happened except it has been discovered that it would be a monumental robbery of taxpayer money if it moves along as projected. A multi-million dollar giveaway.
 
Let the groupies talk. Let the big money hire Byrum & Fisk.  Let the big money hire a high powered law firm to save three non-descript council members so their votes and Marquart can stay on and do endless further damage and continue the endless stream of lies.  It will all play out, and the law will gather in the guilty ones.  Mark my word.   


5-12-2008-08

"Love for Sale"

Remember that old Cole Porter song?  Remember what it was about?  I see the post down the page here about this sadness regarding the few haves hiring a lobbyist to hammer the many have-nots in town and asking if this is what Iron Mountain has come to.  It makes we wonder about something else along moral lines that also bothers me.  What's become of the sex/adult/porn shop in Councilman Tchokreff's basement?  At his downtown business.  Isn't this an issue?  Especially when Councilman Burke is constantly yelping and whining, again on TV the other night, about the public examples he wants set in this town for his kids?  A councilman with a porn shop?  What do you think, Mr. Burke?  That pass the example test?  And when I see almost as many people upset that the shop has been exposed as are upset that Mr. Tchokreff even has the darn place, then I have to wonder if this is what Iron Mountain has come to.  Is it?  Overall, kind of a tawdry picture, isn't it


5-12-2008-07

Post 5-12-2008-03 wrote: Please provide us, the citizens, YOUR ideas for future growth and development in Iron Mountain.

Very well, here are ten of my ideas on change and moving forward in a positive way.

1. All lying, fibbing, stretching the truth, misinformation, misleading, or whatever else you want to call lying by city officials, elected or appointed, shall cease immediately.  Documentation of the facts shall rule the day, and the present practice of attacking the messenger shall no longer be tolerated.

2. In the course of City business, the City Charter, and all existing city ordinances shall, from this point forward, be followed by everyone, including the city manager. Favors for "friends" shall no longer be justification to bend or break the rules. Violations shall be prosecuted or reversed, whichever has the greater benefit to the people of the City.

3. Likewise with number two, State and Federal laws shall henceforth be obeyed, even when they get in the way of what the City wants to do.

4. City business, especially in dealing with issues which might be controversial, shall be conducted in an open and honest fashion. All information on given issues shall be available for the public to consider, not just the select bits and pieces John Marquart wants known.

5. Citizens who have the courage to attend public meetings and voice their opinions shall be treated with dignity and respect.

6. Any and all retaliatory measures taken against citizens, council members, or city employees who disagree with John Marquart shall cease and desist as a method of controlling and intimidating said citizens, council members, and employees.

7. City financial coffers shall no longer be raided for the personal gain of council members or family or friends of council members.  This includes TIFA

8. City employees shall no longer be treated as second-class citizens.

9. Henceforth, incompetence, lying, bullying, lawbreaking, disrespectful attitude, and retaliatory practices shall no longer be rewarded with bonuses, but, rather, with termination.

10. From this point forward, the citizens of this City shall have a right to have their concerns addressed fully, honestly, openly, and without character assassination for asking. Likewise, citizens who point out lawbreaking, bullying, harassment, incompetence, and the like shall not be persecuted for bringing the truth to light.

This would be a good start.


5-12-2008-06

Regarding 5-12-2008-03: The Positive Approach

In late November 2007 a small private civic group, with members of all types from all fields of endeavor from here and many other parts of North America now living here and of which I'm a part, tried to do exactly as you suggest.  Your idea is a good one.  Perhaps you're sincere and will listen this time.  We were scorned and discouraged on this site and off of it by members of both sides who seemed more interested in either only fighting each other or only getting everything that they wanted rather than genuinely working together to find and apply solutions.  Below is the initial post we sent here.  Despite the slippery management/council machinations regarding the old Khoury property and the exposure of the slick and hidden project to bring a casino into Iron Mountain as a fait accompli and develop around it accordingly, we resubmit our posting of last November unchanged.

Since we submitted that post, we've continued our work despite the feuding.  If you're serious about seeing and hearing effective ideas within the perspective a large picture and greater vision, and will take them seriously, then we accept your invitation, your challenge, and we'll again start to provide them.

As far as the newly elected council members, you're not paying attention or are being misled if you don't think they haven't made an effort to do as you ask in your posting.  Dave Farragh provided a wise, excellent, and inexpensive solution a couple months ago to the A Street project, meeting its goal while buying the city time to work toward long-term improvements and saving it a great deal of money and financial risk.  Tina Peterson has been routinely working with and through state agencies and attempting to present state initiatives for grants and jobs through the governor's initiative to attract business and especially alternative-energy industry to Iron Mountain, something for which there is a great deal of support and money now in Lansing and nationwide.  The mayor and city manager, however, have blocked her at every turn, inexplicably claiming a higher priority for city trails, of all things, and downtown improvement, which is like the tail wagging the dog.

We don't see why the city should apply different standards to her efforts to provide money and jobs for Iron Mountain than the city applies to the city manager or any other city official.  These new members and Mr. Rosen, and a number of department heads and other city employees, including the police and fire chiefs, have a good deal of other workable and economical suggestions for raising the standard of living and improving the quality of life in Iron Mountain, reasons for which the new council members were elected, recommendations that are effective under similar circumstances elsewhere and are not based on the current desires of a few or the pages of a musty 1970s political-science textbook or a predetermined managerial template, and might be able to present them publicly for consideration and adoption if the mayor and city manager, in conjunction with the other three council members, will depart from the strict and unexplained adherence to their pre-fixed agenda and pre-election plans and, instead of provoking and demonizing the new members, will allow them to contribute constructively.  The voters have ordered you, veteran council members, and you, city manager, to let the new ones in.  So that's our positive and worthwhile suggestion for tonight: let 'em in.

Until our next contribution ...

MMA et al.

 

11-19-2007-04

Come on.  Let's go.

Dear Iron Mountain:

For months, even years, we've been talking about "taking back our city" and causing positive change in Iron Mountain.  With the recent election, we've only just begun.  I hope we can rise above the petty bickering and vindictiveness afflicting so many around town since November 6.  We should roll up our sleeves now and get down to business, directly addressing substantive issues that face the city and promptly acting upon them.  I encourage all of you to encourage your new City Council in January to start the new year and new government with important and necessary administrative changes, specifically in the city's management.

One:

The Council must replace John Marquart.  Forget, if you can, that's he's consistently proven to be a liar, bully, and creep.  The Council must replace him because he is incompetent and harmful to the city.  Not only has his behavior and advice cost Iron Mountain millions in fines, court fees, lost business, salaries, benefits, travel expenses, personal professional fees, and other countless unnecessary expenditures, and not only has he torn this city to shreds by pitting citizen against citizen to serve only his and his supporters' ends, but he does not have a single positive accomplishment to his name for this city since he has come here -- nor had he one elsewhere before he came.  All he can do is talk a good game, and that only until he is uncovered.  Once hired, he worked solely for the special interests of himself and those on the Council who hired him.  He is the type of civil servant that gives bureaucrats, including the good ones, a bad name.  He's interested only in getting his job, protecting his job, and not doing his job.  Like far too many public-service managers, superintendents, and professional administrators, the name of the game for Marquart is control, and that ultimately to serve his own best interests.

Getting rid of him is not enough, however.  The Council must then hire an effective, accomplished city manager to replace Marquart.  It must search carefully, vet the candidates closely, and hire someone with a background of success at managing a city like Iron Mountain.  If an experienced and successful someone like this costs a few more bucks than we're used to paying, we should pay it happily.  We need a winner, folks.  In the long run we're much further ahead financially to pay for such a person rather than a little less for someone like Marquart who causes the city to hemorrhage money heavily and continuously while accomplishing nothing.  And when hiring we should focus on someone who, rather than manipulating the city divisively, can actually manage it, avoiding, limiting, handling, and/or solving the water, fire, police, financial, and other major problems, thus making the city as a whole work effectively and attractively for its current residents and businesses and, importantly, for prospective residents and businesses.

Two:

The Council must review and then consolidate the duties, jobs, and responsibilities of the remaining administrative staff members, assigning them to perhaps only as many as two of them in addition to the city manager.  The remaining positions should be eliminated.

Three:

The City of Iron Mountain cannot compete if it's not in the game.  Businesses will not come to Iron Mountain if they do not know Iron Mountain exists.  Our recent city governments, particularly the current one, despite its claims, have been very small-minded, small-town, and parochial about this.  Yes, it should pursue grants, absolutely, and even more than it does.  But it should pursue much, much more than grants, and it has entirely lacked the imagination, innovation, and effort to do so.  Remember all the idioms you've ever heard about being penny-wise and pound-foolish?  Bent over, this most recent city government focuses on picking pennies from the pavement while hundred-dollar bills blow unnoticed over its head in the breeze.  The new government has to stand upright, grab a net, and pay attention!  The Council and management continue to think and talk and pursue hundreds of thousands of dollars when they must think and talk and pursue hundreds of millions of dollars if Iron Mountain is to thrive today and in the future.  That's realism.  It's a different world, a different economy, and though the current Council talks progressiveness, its behavior actually follows the same old paradigm of 50 to 60 years ago.  It's time to change.  And not because we want to, but because we must.

The city must hire an accomplished, effective Economic Development Director.  This person's primary responsibility, in collaboration with the other administrative staff and the Council, would be to work the business clearinghouses, exchanges, and businesses themselves throughout the world, asking desirable businesses, 21st-century businesses that we want in town, "How can we get you to settle in Iron Mountain?"  There are great fits out there between Iron Mountain and businesses looking for a place to set up shop.  But those businesses don't know what a good fit Iron Mountain can be if they don't know that there is an Iron Mountain.  Let's introduce them to us.  Let's get a jump on the other places of the world.  Let's get them here instead of Bald Knob, Arkansas; Galway, Ireland; or Nelson, New Zealand.

This is where we should start, Iron Mountain.  Something tangible, practical, positive, doable, and profitable.  These three steps, right now, today.  Start encouraging your new Iron Mountain city government right now to start moving toward the achievement of these three items early in 2008.  We can all blow hot air like the Mayor, Council, and management of the last four years or, as I propose and request with this letter, we can get down to business and actually, positively start turning Iron Mountain into a major 21st-century winner.

MMA et al.


5-12-2008-05

This is what it's come to in Iron Mountain today?  Justifying improper behavior to get your way rather than just behaving properly to begin with?  And to pay a lobbyist big bucks to buy that justification?  To sell the lie?


5-12-2008-04

To 5-12-2008-02:

You're right about the various logistical items you tick off.  I apologize for the confusion that lead to the chicken-or-the-egg problem.  Let me clarify.  The hiring of an experienced and effective professional itself doesn't have to be the prerequisite for support.  Only the pledge by an agreeable, able, trustworthy individual or party to do so.  I don't know if it's doable or not, but thought I'd suggest it.  Nothing doable is going to be easy about any effort made.  What of the Iron Mountain Issues Association itself?  Can't it meet and form some committee with a strong and capable chair?  Or is there some other organization already out there to host such an effort?

5-11-2008-02


5-12-2008-03

To the purveyors of this site and the challengers/newly elected council. Please provide us, the citizens, YOUR ideas for future growth and developement in Iron Mountain. Please tell us what it will take to bring jobs and stability here. Please, do not tell us anymore how we need to fix the past. How wrong everything has been and what opportunities have been lost because of it. Please do not tell us what is wrong with other peoples suggestions and plans for future job growth and developement. Please tell us what YOUR ideas and suggestions are on future growth and developement. Then we, as citizens, can really trully have a choice on our direction. Until then all your thoughts are negative to others ideas, not positive thoughts and ideas for change.

5-12-2008-02

Re: 5-11-2008-02

You have created a chicken-and-egg problem. Hiring professional help may indeed be a good idea as you suggest. But as 5-9-2008-06 pointed out, the leaders of the recall movement can't and won't "front" the $20-$50K to match what the anti-recall forces have dropped on Byrum & Fisk, according to 5-11-2008-01. By making such a hiring a prerequisite for large and widespread contributions, you would ensure that neither the hiring nor the contributions would happen. In this respect, I fear that you have created another excuse for inaction. Your "Obama"-model suggestion is excellent (although it would create a lot of administrative work from a campaign-finance reporting standpoint). Keep in mind, though, that even setting up the secure Web site with credit and debit card processing isn't free.


5-12-2008-01

Who ever heard of hiring a high-powered, down-state lobbying firm to fight a piddly city council recall effort in the Upper Peninsula? Not to mention expensive down-state lawyers. It doesn’t make any sense unless there really is something big and secret going on behind the scenes. Like this secret casino deal, for instance. Who is going to reap the benefits of this deal? Who is paying for the lobbying firm? The same people, I’d imagine. Is public disclosure required on who is paying for the lobbyists? It is election campaign related. I wonder if there would be an Indian tribe listed? This whole thing stinks, and is all the more reason to throw these bums - Burke, Caudell, Tchokreff - out. One thing I can not tolerate anymore is the people with inside information making money off City decisions that are kept hidden from the public. Oh, and making money off the people who do not have the inside info, too.

And what about the other local government entities? Are they hiding this, too? When you take the quotes from that Feb. 22, 2008 newspaper article and put that US Dept. Of Interior letter next to it, it looks obvious that there has been a united effort by local government entities to keep this whole thing quiet. Is that what we elected ANY of them for? Secret deals? Making money from inside information? Taking advantage of the people without the info?  Making huge, long-lasting decisions without our input?  Behind our backs? Some local officials - Iron Mountain, Breitung Township, Dickinson County, Dickinson Area Partnership, etc. - better start coming clean on this soon. It is quite a stretch to believe that the tribe applied for this two years ago, and that they have not talked to ANY local officials about it, as the quotes in the newspaper most definitely imply.


5-11-2008-04

If there is an interest in the requirements of 25 C.F.R. 151.10 and 151.11 which are cited in the Department of the Interior letter, check http://law.justia.com/us/cfr/title25/25-1.0.1.8.63.html

5-11-2008-03

Loved the C. S. Lewis quote on progress posted at 5-8-2008-05. Nails the incumbents perfectly. 
 
Stubborn, conniving snakes ran this city illegally for four years.  Dupes and followers who didn't know what the hell was happening right before their eyes also had a vote on the city council. 
 
Then there is the idiot who wrote post 5-8-2008-04 who tries to make the ridiculous claim that the election for the recall will cost more than keeping the incumbents in until their tertm expires on December 31,2009.  Sorry, fella, the August election was already scheduled and would have gone on with or without a recall on it.
 
Besides, did you read Marquart's proposed budget?  He had the General Fund down to a piddling $44,000 by June 30, 2010 and TIFA down to $8,000. That's a whopping $,3500,000 less than it will have as of June 30, 2008.  Are you suggesting the election will cost more than that?


5-11-2008-02

5-9-2008-06 restrikes a chord that's been humming in my chest and growing in volume for two and a half years.  I believe that in 5-5-2008-02's provocative post she too remarked that instead of higher authorities stepping in she would rather see us take care of our own business, wash our own dirty laundry.  In fact, I believe a couple of others mentioned it too.  It seemed this was a major reason for their involvement.

I have been supporting and occasionally working for Barack Obama's campaign for well over a year.  I, like many others, contribute a small to moderate amount every few weeks.  If you follow the political news, you know that Obama is by far the largest fundraiser, setting records and dwarfing the other candidates and their old-fashioned methods of fundraising via the traditional rich and the traditional corporate.  A little bit of money regularly once in a while from a lot of supporters really adds up.  If we're going to need enough money to hire effective professional help, couldn't we establish and cultivate a similar system -- ask people to give as much as they can, as little as that might be, every few days, week, or two weeks?

You may recall my faint and infrequent calls to this same effect during last year's local campaigns.  I am a strong believer in proven professional expertise.  Because it's proven.  Not incidentally, if council members Caudell, Tchokreff, and Burke and their supporters hire professional help, I would also suggest that no one contribute as much as a dime to battle that effort and promote the recall unless an authoritative figure or party in favor of the recall hires an experienced and effective professional lobbyist to counter the anti-recall professionals.  Actually, if the recall effort did not have solid professional help, I would not contribute financially and I would recommend to others not to contribute.

In closing, I would like to thank the flurry of adults for submitting such clear-eyed, thoughtful, and helpful content lately.  It's good to read something that, though deeply felt, is realistic, reasoned, and practical.


5-11-2008-01

FYI: According to Therese Fortier, anti-recall lawyer Mary Ellen Gurewitz will argue on May 20th that there are six examples of unclear language in the original petitions to recall Dan Burke, Eden Caudell, and Robin Tchokreff.

Also, a reliable source in Lansing claims that the anti-recall committee has contracted
Byrum & Fisk, a lobbying firm in East Lansing, from between $20,000 to $50,000, to insure at least that Burke, Caudell, and Tchokreff are not recalled in August, that the current 4-3 majority is preserved, and that John Marquart is therefore retained, and that current, unpublicized projects such as the establishment of the Lac Vieux Desert Iron Mountain Resort & Casino and casino-related real estate and contracting projects continue.  When I sought confirmation, a reliable source in Iron Mountain reported that this is his understanding also.  Although neither can provide immediate documentation, they are confident of this information and assure me that it will be evident soon, and with particular immediacy if the anti-recall committee loses its May 20th appeal.


5-10-2008-01

Some additional information about the Casino situation:
 
According to the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act (IGRA), tribal gaming should take place on lands located within boundaries of a tribe's reservation as it existed on October 17, 1988.
 
The exceptions, however, are:
1.  If the land is taken into trust for the tribe as part of a settlement of a land claim.
2.  If the land is restored to a tribe whose status has been newly recognized by the Fed. Gov.
3.  If the Sec. of the Dept. of the Interior and The State Governor sign off on the land-into-trust for gaming proposal.
 
Points to ponder:
Federally recognized tribes are sovereign nations, and are exempt from local planning and zoning laws.
Gaming developments require fire, ambulatory, sewage and water services...yet are exempt from State and local taxation. 
Excerpt: 
"Should the citizens of the surrounding community be asked to fund the services necessary to support the gaming development--such as road construction and housing development--if they had no opportunity to meaningfully participate in the gaming approval process?"
 
The role of private developers:
"Some tribes turn to new players such as venture capitalists and real estate developers to finance the gaming approval process."
 
But what can happen is that private developers may use this scenario to avoid the state and local gaming approval process, and other State and local rules.  The IGRA exceptions were most likely not the intention of Congress to become private developers' business models.
 
More points to Ponder:
Looking at this strictly as an "Economic Impact" situation, what I have found so far in research is this:
 
1.  Unless studies are sponsored by Gaming-related groups, there is no sufficient evidence for a positive economic impact.
2.  Anderson Economic Group found some Tribe's numbers to be skewed, where the projections were actually only half of those promised.
3.  Surrounding communities suffered actual losses.
4.  Only a rare type of Demographic and non-saturated market could have a chance of positive economic impact.  Otherwise, the customers would mostly be locals; which takes business away from the other entertainment/restaurant/leisure markets.  Also, the casino customer tends not to actually leave the casino facility to patronize other local businesses, keeping all profits within the building.
5.  The creation of jobs are minimum wage.  If it is a tribal gaming facility: the jobs would be filled by (mostly, I believe) the tribal members.
However, everyone would have to do their own research...creating the most unbiased picture.
 
Social Impact:
The numbers and stats are there for anyone to read and research.  It's not about a moral judgement; there are simply figures that tell a tale. 
In many situations in life, there are people who make millions off of human beings' weaknesses.  Some are more socially acceptable than others.  Most people are able to gamble as a viable entertainment source--some people are not.  Some unsatisfactory situations may go hand-in-hand with certain types of businesses. 
 
What I wish for our City, to the core of my being, is economic growth in a totally different direction.  I still feel the time is ripe to fight for jobs in connection with the State's direction.  I would bet that our surrounding communities even feel the same way, and a collaborative effort could be pursued.  What I envision are jobs that provide living wages, benefits, enhancement of tax base, and frankly; enhancement of our way of life.
It doesn't just jump in our lap, however, and I refuse to believe what I'm being told repeatedly by the Manager, Mayor, and three other council members:  That we can't possibly think of pursuing marketing, manufacturing, or tech jobs because we need to have trails and a vibrant downtown first. (?)
 
But, wouldn't those very types of jobs be the key partnership with Bay West College to nurture its growth as well?
 
Above all, isn't it time that the residents of this City had a heads-up and a choice towards their "progress" for a change?
 
Tina Peterson

5-9-2008-07

I have fixed the link to the January 2008 Archive Forum Posts.  I have also created a Casino Information page and will try and gather and keep all information regarding a casino on this page.

Casino Information Page

Webmaster


5-9-2008-06

Although I don't know whether the investigations referenced by 5-5-2008-02 are real, exaggerated, or wishful thinking, I do wish that she hadn't mentioned them, because the mere prospect of intervention by higher authorities reinforces the central failing of this town's citizenry: hoping and expecting that other people will discharge their civic duties for them.

Far too many people who disagree with Marquart and who read and even write to this Web site have been treating the two-year struggle to restore honest, lawful, and accountable government to our city as though it were an episode of American Idol: something to be watched, talked about, and voted on, but not something in which to participate personally otherwise. There are heroic exceptions, of course, but for reasons explained below, they are entirely too few in number to confront what now faces us. First, let me explain what I mean.

It isn't Robin Tchokreff's fault that, in nearly a decade on the Council, he's never faced an opponent. That's the fault of every resident of the Second Ward.

In the two years that this Website has existed, the Webmaster has received occasional and well-deserved messages of thanks, but I have yet to see a post offering to chip in for the fees charged by the Internet Service Provider that hosts this site.

If you examine the recently filed and certified recall petitions, you will see that almost all of the signatures were gathered by about a half-dozen people. That's because no one else could be bothered.

If you look at the public filings of the Committee for Continued Progress and the Good Government Committee, you will see that, not only did Continued Progress raise more money, which was to be expected, but they also had many more donors.

In short, it appears that Eden Caudell was only half-wrong when she said that 75 citizens attending a Council meeting don't represent the community. The election results and recall petitions demonstrated that more people disagree with her than she imagined. On the other hand, the number of people who thus far have been willing to give or work on account of that disagreement has been far smaller than the crowd at that meeting.

If the vast majority of people who support the recall continue to treat it like a spectator sport, 5-8-2008-03 will be proven correct. As has been explained by 4-20-2008-01 and 5-6-2008-05, among others, Marquart's cronies, with the support of powerful out-of-town interests, stand to pocket more than $3.5 million in city funds and untold additional amounts in state and third-party funds in relatively short order if the recall fails. Spending fifty grand to retain these Council seats is chicken feed to them, to be repaid a hundred-fold or more at your expense if they win.

There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow of success for any recall supporter, and the handful of people who have been carrying the water and writing the ticket for the effort to save our community from corruption and disintegration do not have pockets deep enough or Rolodexes golden enough to prevail in this fight while their so-called supporters continue to wave pom-poms from the sidelines. Surely this should be obvious by now. Yet we still have 5-7-2008-04 telling this Website's readers to "sit back and wait for the show to commence." That is exactly what no putative recall supporter should do. If 5-5-2008-02 and 5-6-2008-02 are sincere converts to the pro-recall cause who wish to help it succeed rather than merely to assauge their own consciences for previously supporting Marquart, they will have to do more than whisper in a few ears and vote for the recall. They will need to write checks to the pro-recall campaign, even though they will show up on public filings, which might spoil the mood at Moose Jackson. So will every reader of this Web site who is sympathetic to the recall. If you can afford the Internet access that you use to read this site, you can spare $10 or $20. If you can afford $8 cups of coffee on a regular basis, you can spare a few hundred. If you are unwilling to do so, then, regardless of what you may say, you do not want what is right as much as Marquart's cronies want to get richer at public expense.

In case I have been less than clear, let me say more than I probably should. Those of us who have watched our family members carry too much of this burden for too long have limits to our patience and altruism. This workload will either be shared more equitably or it will be dropped, because it cannot be successfully borne. Note that I said "workload," not the "bitchload" of registering complaints on this Website or in various coffee klatsches but doing nothing; not the "b.s.-load" of armchair-quarterbacking what other people should do but doing nothing oneself.

If the county prevails in the pending court challenge to the Election Board's decision to approve the recall language, it will be put-up-or-shut-up time for every right-minded citizen of this community and our neighbors who don't welcome the prospect of living next door to the U.P.'s version of Cicero, Illinois. If the recall effort does not attract hundreds of donors and dozens of volunteers willing to do unglamorous grunt work, it will fail, just as 5-8-2008-03 predicted. Every one of you who claims to support the recall should spend the ten days between now and the court hearing deciding whether you are better than that and preparing to live with yourself and with the consequences.


5-9-2008-05

BREAKING NEWS ON PROPOSED CASINO IN IRON MOUNTAIN

 

Below is PROOF POSITIVE that the Lac Vieux Desert Band of Lake Superior Chippewa Indians (Watersmeet) applied to the U S Department of Interior requesting 10 acres in the City of Iron Mountain be put into trust status for off-reservation gambling. In all likelihood, they are continuing this pursuit by filing additional information. 

 

Is the Mariucci-Varda plan tied to this somehow?  Why is Bacco Construction aggressively seeking to buy land in the same area?  Inside information that could skyrocket the value of the land is one obvious possibility.

 

This story is only one of many that will be unfolding in the very near future that will go a long way toward explaining the desperation of certain local interests to spend large sums of money to legally challenge a rather routine recall.  It’s not because they are enamored with the wisdom of Eden Caudell, Dan Burke or Robin Tchokreff.  They know that as long as they sit on the council and Marquart is the city manager, they can manipulate events toward huge personal payoffs.  Stand by – this is just the beginning of an unfolding story.  It will sweep many local individuals and interests into an unwanted limelight. 

 
Letter from the United States Department of the Interior

5-9-2008-04

Use your head, 5-7-2008-05.  Why would someone make that kind of effort to convince someone about something on which they already agree?  I know that woman.  Her post is a testimonial of someone who, if not a convert, is mightily fed up with the garbage coming from her own side of the aisle.  Your post is more wishful thinking than knowledge and perhaps a bit of a fishing expedition, to boot.

As far as your reference to liberal, don't pull that nonsense on us.  There are individuals who are in fact liberal and then there are individuals who are only self-interested but choose to hide behind the skirts of what is liberal.  Just like the faithless politicians who hide behind the skirts of Jesus and drag out religion to use for their own narrow, self-serving purposes.  Liberal and conservative have nothing to do with this debate.  Good and bad, right and wrong -- that's how this one is shaping up, sweetheart.  You're either on the side of ethics and the law or you're not.  And that applies to everyone.  I repeat: everyone.  Dig?


5-9-2008-03

A Casino in the Works

I'll be damned.  Liars, conspirators, and fiction writers, huh?  I'm getting a whiff of
Erin Brockovich here but without the big movie contract.  Maybe Tina Peterson isn't nuts or paranoid after all.  I wonder if those painting her as such have the decency to be ashamed of themselves.

"The tribe previously submitted a land-into-trust application for an off-reservation casino in Iron Mountain, about 70 miles from Watersmeet. Last Friday, the tribe received a letter from the Bureau of Indian Affairs stating that the application was incomplete and would not be evaluated until more information is submitted."
http://www.indianz.com/IndianGaming/2008/006513.asp

"Michigan's Lac Vieux Desert Band presented plans for a Muskegon casino, one of three off-rez proposals for the city. Odds against the project are high, with Muskegon about 400 miles from the small gaming tribe's reservation. Interior sent back its application for a nearer Iron Mountain casino as incomplete."
"Tribes with incomplete applications can submit them again."
http://www.ggbmagazine.com/articles/Dateline___Tribal

"A slew of other off-reservation requests were returned to tribes Friday due to an incomplete application, including a Lac Vieux Desert Band request for a casino in Iron Mountain, Mich., just 75 miles from its reservation."
"Lac Vieux Desert Band need city and community support."
http://turtletalk.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/lac-vieux-desert-off-reservation-gaming-proposal-muskegon-news-coverage/

Visit the Department of Interior's Web site to explore this issue in more depth (including Director Carl Artman's January 3, 2008, policy guides) or search the Web (e.g., lac vieux + iron mountain + casino and different variations of this) to find info that an effort in fact has been and is being made to put a casino in Iron Mountain.  It probably wouldn't hurt to check with the Lac Vieux Desert Band and the Little River Band (which could kill the deal) to see what they have to contribute to the debate.

How dare you ridicule individuals who broach this subject, with cause, and then claim that their statements are complete fabrication?  Are you simply out of the loop or are you continuing your attempt to keep this a secret until it's a fait accompli and can be sprung on the city?

Stop!  Don't tell me there's not something going on. 

Seems those outside Iron Mountain know more about this than those in Iron Mountain.  Which, I'd suppose, is exactly how the knowing few in Iron Mountain want it.  I can't wait to investigate this further and I invite others to pursue it, too.  So-called "nonsense that crazy people are making up about a casino"?  Crazy indeed.  Marquart, you piece of dirt.  You faked bewilderment and told me and others to our faces months ago that this was nonsense from out of the blue and that you knew nothing about it or anything like it, that even the possibility of it was absurd.  You snake.  5-8-2008-03, I salute you.  And am inclined to believe you.  And now not so easily dismiss what you write about Marquart and the possibility of that investigation.  Duck, Iron Mountain!  I think we're about to get clobbered by a P.R. blitz from City Hall, its most ardent supporters, and its lobbyists.

And to you, Ms. Peterson, my apology, sympathy, and hope that you hang in there and keep on plugging.  Some of us deeply appreciate your efforts to dig up the truth and present it.  Unfortunately, your role is sort of that of a
Cassandra.  I suppose a person would indeed seem overly dramatic or hysterical if she kept trying to tell people that rain is wet and, because the fix is on, no one believed her.  Seems to me you've always been straight with us, you've always pointed to some solid evidence when questioning or claiming something, and in me you have at least one believer and supporter.  Keep up the good work.

Letter from the United States Department of the Interior


5-9-2008-02

Interesting development, this new talk of a casino. Someone snidely (my opinion) asked for facts, believing either that there are none, or that they are hidden well enough that they cannot be found. Let's look at what little history we do have on it. This is going to be long, folks. If you stay with me, I promise it gets a lot more interesting at the end, after the necessary groundwork is laid. First, excerpts from past posts on this site:

6-17-2007-01

How about an Indian Gambling Casino in Iron Mountain? Yes, it has been and is being discussed behind the scenes.

It's planned location is near the Pine Mountain Lodge area, probably in the Iron Mountain city limits,

6-19-2007-01

I've heard about the Indian Casino proposal, too. There is definitely something going on. The attorney for the Indians was a former local attorney. The new owners of Pine Mountain are allegedly involved as well.

8-13-2007-04

A friend of mine recently attended a party with a lot of 'big shots'. The conversation centered around the supposedly fact that an Indian tribe from up north wants to buy Pine Mountain resort and also build a casino. Has anyone heard anything about this?

8-14-2007-02

I have heard, as well, the story of a casino around the Pine Mountain Resort area. I don't know if they want to buy out the resort and expand it into a casino, . . . Landowners in the area have been approached to sell their property, BUT NOT by the city. It's a private group, of which at least one member is an incumbent on the city council.

8-26-2007-04

This is the same scenario that may be played out with the potential Casino and Pine Mountain. Doug Rigoni has been heard to ask about those roads at many Council meetings and push for their "realignment." More Grants to make Marquart look good, more money in Rigoni's pocket?

Posts too numerous to cite from November, 2007 - 11-19-2007-03, 11-20-2007-01, 11-21-2007-01, 11-21-2007-03, 11-22-2007-01, 11-24-2007-03, 11-26-2007-01, 11-27-2007-01, 11-27-2007-02, 11-27-2007-03, 11-28-2007-01, 11-30-2007-01, 11-30-2007-02, 11-30-2007-04

Five posts in December, 2007 - 12-2-2007-02, 12-4-2007-01, 12-4-2007-02. 12-5-2007-01, 12-6-2007-02

January, 2008 posts are not accessible. Then there is the new spark of interest in May of this year.

If you actually go back and read the posts listed above, you will see that there was a lot of denial that there was any plan at all to have a casino here in Iron Mountain. Some even tried to say it was not even legally possible.

Then, you have these selected excerpts from a Daily News story dated Feb.. 22, 2008:

Ron Erickson - "There are no plans for a casino."

Former State Rep. Dave Anthony - "If property is purchased away from the reservation, the tribal council must specify exactly what it will be used for."

Perry Franzoi - "(The township) has never received a request for the purchase of casino property in the township." And, "I don't see anything happening around here."

Bruce Orttenburger - "We have no tribal land in our area." And, "I hear lots of stories and I can tell you there is no truth to any of them."

John Marquart - "I don't put any faith in rumors. I don't believe anything is going to happen."

Joe Stevens - "I've never heard anything concrete. If anything were going to happen, it would have to cross the path of the Dickinson County Board of Commissioners."

So, the whole idea was hushed and supposedly laid to rest by that article. All the assurances from all the right people. I am wondering, though, how they can explain the attached letter to the rest of us? This letter is absolute and irrefutable proof that there has been an active pursuit of an Indian casino in Iron Mountain for at least two years! Are we to believe that the tribe submitted paperwork to the Federal government for a casino in Iron Mountain without talking to ANYONE in Iron Mountain and the surrounding area? The behind the back, sneaky underhandedness, and lying strikes again. This sure explains why people with inside information are scrambling to purchase all the land they can possibly get in that area. Oh, and the Indians are free to submit the information needed to continue their pursuit of this casino, in case any of you choose to point out that they were removed from consideration at this time, and try to say it's dead in the water. It's not.

Letter from the United States Department of the Interior


5-9-2008-01

I am utterly confused.  You question why people are attending the council meetings.  I was told, last fall, by a former friend, that I should attend council meetings so that I could see what is going on.  So…I have gone to everyone that I can.  With all of the press about what is going on at council meetings, doesn’t it make sense that this has awakened the interest of citizens to see first hand how things are being done?  Don’t we all, taxpayers and citizens, have a vested interest in the workings of our city and isn’t the council meeting a place to go to learn.  Why would teachers of the local school system assign students to attend government meetings if it wasn’t to learn about the process and what is happening? 

In regards to other postings, I too would like to see some of the evidence documenting the investigation of our City Manager and council members.  I have searched online, under every topic imaginable, I have contacted our state representative, state senator, U.S. representative and the Attorney General of Michigan.  Hopefully they can shed some light on this for me and I will be willing release any information that they give me.   

Bacco Construction, Champion Inc., and many other successful business, in this area, have worked hard to get where they are today.  Don’t for one minute think that the leaders of these successful  businesses have sat back on their duffs and waited for opportunities to fall in their laps because it doesn’t work that way.  They are reputable, provide quality work, and are genuinely good people who hire good people in our community to help the economy of Iron Mountain.

You know, when I look back on my own personal growth I can see that I at one time was narrowed minded and opinionated about certain things.  But I can say that by opening my mind and my heart, I am a person with much better vision and I thank God for the opportunity to be this new me.


5-8-2008-05

After reading and hearing recent media coverage from the 3 council members up for recall, I remembered something I had read concerning "progress".  I hope all these council members and their supporters who claim they want to move forward and forget about the past, will take this to heart.  
 
"We all want progress.  But progress means getting nearer to the place where you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning, then to go forward does not get you any nearer.  If you are on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man. We have seen this when doing arithmetic.  When I have started a sum the wrong way, the sooner I admit this and go back and start again, the faster I shall get on.  There is nothing progressive about being pig headed and refusing to admit a mistake.  And I think if you look at the present state of the world, it is pretty plain that humanity has been making some big mistake.  We are on the wrong road.  And if that is so, we must go back.  Going back is the quickest way on."   C.S. Lewis


5-8-2008-04

RE: 5-6-2008-05
Oh Tina, get a grip, you are soooooooo dramatic.  I don't think it would be like a Sopranos scene if something suddenly happened to you.  Also, those are pretty major accusations about a casino, where are your facts from?  Could we see them too? 
 
RE: 5-7-2008-01
If you had a business in this screwed up town, wouldn't you go see what kind of zoo the council meetings are.  It was fine for all of you to watchdog everyone else, but you can't seem to understand why reasonable citizens would show up to see what you are doing????  Give me a break.
 
As far as a recall goes, how much is that going to cost me in MY TAX $$$  Don't tell me it will cost me more if the evil city council goes on for another year (can't we wait?)  HOW MUCH????  CAN ANYONE TELL ME THAT?
 
Time to look at all of this with a little more sanity.  Why is there so much b.s. going on??  Everything is not a conspiracy, and this website makes it all look that way. It is probably three people sending in emails....

5-8-2008-03

A Prophecy: Iron Mountain's Immediate Future

Dear 5-6-2008-04:

For the past two years, you or one of your pals writes to this site and says the same darn thing every time someone gets too close to the truth.  You arrogantly scorn and ridicule a previous writer and the site and either try to distract everyone's attention or buy time until you can accomplish your misdeeds.

Thanks but no thanks.  This time I'll just wait until I hear back from the attorneys general, the Justice Department, and the various Michigan agencies I've begun to contact.  I'll decide for myself if I believe that John Marquart is being investigated, thank you very much.  You write "Does anyone reading these posts really, really believe that the city manager of our town could be under investigation by three states and a number of government agencies and no city officials would know about it?"   Are you kidding?  Absolutely anyone believes it.  Do you believe MarquartAre you Marquart?  If Marquart knows something, I don't believe he would think twice about withholding it from anyone or everyone -- particularly if he felt it would jeopardize his position, which of course it would.

Personally, I believe there is an investigation, that it's close because the investigators don't know who's in bed with Marquart, and that someone leaked that information -- because I was interviewed then, I know a private investigation was launched over a year ago, initially provoked by his allegedly adulterous nature and behavior, and that it was expanded over time -- and I believe Marquart's goose is cooked this time.  That it's just a matter of time.

You and yours took the same are-you-gonna-believe-that-baloney approach just last December and January about a casino and related projects in town and tried to make us all feel like a bunch of fools for even remotely imagining it might be so despite unhidden public evidence all over the Web and all over the street that would make anyone wonder.  Well, pal, despite your derision and distraction a few months ago in an attempt to buy time, I'll tell you and the others in town what's almost certainly happening now and going happen over the next few weeks, months, and years about that casino that no one presently believes or even thinks about.  Stuff that you ridiculed here just months ago.  Then the regulars can all write back here with their judgment of me and writers like me.  And writers like you.

The Lake Superior Chippewa Indians are going to build and open a Lac Vieux Desert Resort Casino in Iron Mountain.  This is why the Mariucci/Varda project is to be built.  It's an adjunct business.  To host the stream of gamblers and other visitors, not the occasional American Legion or VFW convention.  This is why rich vested business interests and the city itself are snatching up parcels of adjacent and nearby land on the north side.  This is why the rich business interests in town believe that the recall attempt must be defeated at all costs and that the current council members remain in office -- big businesses in the city own their votes.  John Marquart and his 4-3 vote are their grip on the city.  Those businesses are going to make tons of money selling the land and building the infrastructure for the casino and much of the casino itself, as well as the related businesses and supporting infrastructure -- like the Mariucci project.  This is a huge corporate welfare venture.  Gigantic.  The city, including all of us, is going to bust its budget repeatedly and pay millions -- it has already started, the controversial purchase of the Khoury property being merely one example -- making every effort to accommodate and benefit the few rich businesses controlling city hall.  The casino and related businesses will be a bad economic fit for Iron Mountain and the area, despite a flurry of new minimum-wage jobs.  The splurt of development will send taxes and the cost of living for schools and infrastructure through the roof -- but not your income to meet all that expense.  That will stagnate or decrease.  That won't matter, though, because the rich will have made additional fortunes -- they'll get theirs, at your expense.  And they will forge ahead and do this because they don't care what will happen to you, your family, and your livelihood.  The town's middle class will shrink, the rich will get much richer, and the rest of the population will get poorer and the number of this poor segment will increase significantly, putting distressing economic and social strain on the community.  The standard of living will continue to sink, the quality of life will continue to diminish.

And all of this, which long ago began behind your backs, will happen unless you stop it, Iron Mountain.  But you will not.  There won't even be a significant public debate over this.  Because a large percentage of you are lethally apathetic, lazy, complacent.  You don't give a hoot.  At least not until it's too late.  Most of the rest of you will allow the wealthy business interests in town, those about to screw you royally, to buy your opinions and your votes, probably in the media as much as anywhere, either directly or through the expensive lawyers and lobbyists that they'll hire.  You'll effectively vote to screw yourself because you'll have been persuaded to.  You will, and it won't be the first time the last few years.

So, 5-6-2008-04, despite your scorn and deceit last winter, that's what's going to happen.  There are no ifs, ands, or buts.  It will happen.  Everyone in this town might as well prepare for it.  Whether they like it or not, they're powerless to stop it.  You people at this site like to spread news around?  Spread this news around.  It's as good as done and you're going to look really smart later, predicting it.  And, likewise, despite your identical scorn and deceit last Tuesday, 5-6-2008-04, I'd bet that Marquart, professionally, is soon to bite the dust in Iron Mountain.  Give some of us a little credit.  We know some stuff -- stuff that maybe even you don't know and have an opportunity to cover up -- and we can guess the rest.  Not all of us were born in a box behind a rock in the woods outside Amasa.


5-8-2008-02

How large does the crater in front of the Northern Michigan bank need to get before someone from the city notices that it is there? I can understand why my street is so bad, they either don’t know it’s there or just don’t care. Or are they just waiting till an asphalt truck hits it and looses part of its load, that way the not only get it fixed free but can fine the poor guy for spilling his load?


5-8-2008-01

If you're opposing the rank materialism, pornography, thuggery, selfishness, dishonesty, lawlessness, abuse, unresponsiveness, immorality and other undesirable elements within the power clique of Iron Mountain's present government and its wealthy, wealth-seeking supporters, there's some consolation and a place to turn for solace and strength.

If you try to love the world as God loves the world, you will always be in the middle of trouble.  Following God's way is always costly.  I can't find anywhere in the Bible or throughout the Church's teachings, however, where it says you should stop.  On the contrary.  No one said the right way was gonna be the easy way, not even Jesus.  In fact, you know what He did say. 

Re-read the Gospels for comfort, peace, and resolve.  Listen to what Jesus tells you.  It's not always easy to see, but Jesus is a pragmatist.  Just hang on tight and keep the faith.  Go into a room alone and pray -- don't be afraid to talk with God about this.  Plug away, do what's right and do it for the right reasons.  Stay on the right side of this devilish business and you'll be O.K.  Yeah, I'm serious.  Rely on your faith and what it tells you is good and right.


5-7-2008-06

5-6-2008-05

Singing like a Canary...Please read.
 
Wow, I'm sure you folks are all proud of your Mrs.  Peterson.  What, has it been a few months and she is already admitting her own ineffectivness and is behaving like a child by ranting on this site versus as a professional like you would expect a council member to behave. Will she be here to whine each time she does not get her way (maybe need to attend council member training)?  This on top of being unable to control her emotions during a meeting.  A little (ok more than a little) paranoid too.

5-7-2008-05

Those  people are attending  the council meeting because they are citizens and they have the right. No one owns the privelege of deciding who can and can not come to a public meeting. You don't own your chair or the podium. You don't own the city. And most of all, you don't own the right to be outraged at the idea of a group of people trying to lie, cheat and steal their way into putting personal interests  before anything else. We're all outraged. And as for the phony, contrived letter pretending to be a friend of Mrs. Fortier and publishing those emails - it's a lie. It will always be a lie. You  weren't a supporter, you haven't been her friend, and you weren't suddenly won over by the other side. You are just a little person using a foolish, obvious tactic to convince the people who already agree with you. Here's an idea - why don't you start a pretend website using some elses name - you could pretend you were gay or liberal or smart.

5-7-2008-04

I don't care what you think, 5-6-2008-04.  Or any of you on any side of these issues who regularly overlook or dismiss evidence and fail to understand its real use and power.  Frankly, it doesn't matter what you think.  It's beyond that.  Be as smug and dismissive as you want.  Choose, like the sad old men you oppose, not to get up off your rear end and retrieve the evidence yourself.  It doesn't matter.  Marquart is toast.  Maybe not this month, maybe not next month, but relatively soon.  Personally, I hope that the authorities don't strike until at least mid-August, so we can get our blows in locally.  How burnt he gets will likely depend on what kind of plea bargain he strikes, if any.  Nothing is going to change that the end is in sight for him.  And no matter what you think, believe, or say is going to change what is going to happen.  So deride and protest all you want.  You too may as well just sit back and wait for the show to commence like the rest of us.  And start protecting your own flank.  Who knows what Marquart will say and produce about whom if it's to lessen the degree of punishment on his own hide.


5-7-2008-03

I kind of doubt there is a three-state Federal and State investigation going on about Marquart.  Sound like a stretch, simply because Marquart himself isn't that big of a fish.
 
However, I do know of a good number of investigations going on right now, right here in Iron Mountain, but with long tenacles that reach well into the bowels of Lansing. They include Marquart, but more importantly, a number of his local-elite buddies.  These investigations are are progressing very well, and many of the local-elite are most assuredly unaware of the full extent of the digging going on.  
 
At the proper time, all this will come out, and it won't be that long from now. Area residents will be astounded at what has been going on.


5-7-2008-02

What IS going on at the council meetings? Why is Ted Corombos at every single meeting? Talk about big money running the city - he's the guy. Why is Don Christy always there - could it be he's protecting some sort of special interest? Why is Bill Toedter and his wife there? And Mike Nicometo dressed up in a suit! Scandalous. What could they be looking for? How mysterious. I certainly can't believe that they are just citizens who are concerned about city government - it has to be some sort of conspiracy. I'm sure they would never attend out of loyalty to any cause or to be supportive of the council - it MUST be a self-serving reason - IT JUST HAS TO BE. After all, this is Iron Mountain the land of giant business interests, frightening conspiracies and big, big money. Watch out everyone.


5-7-2008-01

Why is Bacco president John Fortier, his wife and his father-in-law now attending city council meetings regularly when they never did in the past?  Bacco interests, maybe? $400,000 of free water and sewer lines to their property just south of the Hydraulic Falls Road.  Big jobs on the proposed Mariucci project?  Why are they tryng to assemble land all around it?
 
Why are Maddie Tousignant and Chris Leonard and other Stephens GMAC Realty people there at every meeting? Hoping the Mariucci-Varda scam succeeds so they will get hefty future commissions on land sales there?
 
Why was Gary Benjamin, president of Champion, Inc, at the previous meeting (maybe for the first time in his life) and former Champion accountant Robert Furno at the last two meetings?  Sudden curiosity about city affairs?  Or maybe just looking for more corporate welfare from the city and its TIFA Board.
 
Corporate welfare is alive and well in Iron Mountain, and will continue to be there as long as Marquart and the gang of four are running the show, to the tune of millions of dollars.  Follow the money trail, and the greed rich will be in the mix, that's for sure. They are surely funding the legal fees in trying to stop the recall in court.  Just being nice guys?  Don't think so.


5-7-2008-01

TV6 News ran a great story last night and again this morning, the first of a three part series called "Trouble on the Mountain." With both sides of the political issues laid out, it’s almost unbelievable that anyone could continue to support John Marquart or the three members facing recall, or even Jeff Vanlaanen. Pooja Lodhia did a fantastic job of cutting through the political spin and lies and getting to the heart of the issues. It was nice to finally hear council members facing recall admitting that the manager is controversial and has polarized this community. That could not be a good thing in any sense of the word, in my opinion, so I wonder how they can keep driving on with their narrow-minded agenda.
 
I do have to give John Marquart some credit for his short comments. He said that he does what the council tells him to do, whether it be by a 7 - 0 vote or a 4 - 3 vote. I have long held that opinion myself, and that comment by Mr. Marquart makes it all the more imperative that we oust Burke, Caudell, and Tchokreff in this recall. He did fail to mention that he carries out their instructions with no regard for the law, or the people it affects, and without thinking things through. He also failed to mention that they usually gave him his marching orders based on exactly what HE told them they should be doing.
 
I am eagerly awaiting part 2 of the series, which should be airing tonight at 6:00 central time.

5-6-2008-08

Tho I'd love to believe it, and tho I could believe it, I'd strongly recommend that everyone discount any talk of Marquart supposedly being under the federal and state investigation until such news breaks publicly or someone produces the evidence from the primary sources -- those being the agencies and departments allegedly going after him.  Meanwhile I wouldn't touch that investigation business with a ten-foot fork.  If it's true, fine, but there are plenty of other arguments and damning evidence with which to carry on this fight.  I suggest we marshall all of that and present it to the voters effectively.  And to converts who want to carry on the fight among those we have opposed for the last few years, more power to you, good luck, and thanks.


5-6-2008-07

It amazes me that new reasons to recall Burke, Caudell, and Tchokreff keep piling on even after the recall petitions have been gathered and filed. John Marquart continues to be insubordinate to new council members Rosen, Peterson, and Farragh, and the other four are failing to hold him accountable. He continues to issue illegal orders to his own subordinates, and Vanlaanen, Burke, Caudell, and Tchokreff fail to hold him accountable. He continues to show incompetence in failing to accomplish time-sensitive tasks, and the four still do not hold him accountable. He continues to disregard city ordinances, and the four fail to hold him accountable. Marquart continues to use his office to retaliate against people he doesn’t like, and they fail to hold him accountable. He continues to lie about city business, and they continue to look the other way. Examples of all of the above have occurred within the last month.
 
It’s like they are flaunting their self-perceived indestructibility, daring to have someone hold them accountable for failing to do their jobs. As an excellent post said a few weeks ago, when did this sort of behavior become OK? How can these new plants in the meeting audiences continue to ignore the facts, and condone such reprehensible behavior?  Do they think the people are that complacent and sheep-like, that they won't care about lying, bullying, law-breaking, - well I hate to keep repeating this stuff, but this is all NEW stuff!!  Not exactly in the forgive and forget category.  Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it, right?

5-6-2008-06

5-6-2008-01:  John Marquart will not tell you about this.  Unless he feels compelled to do so eventually to save his hide.  Perhaps he is "negotiating," as he is wont to say, as he said about the recent MIOSHA fines of $20,000 his management incurred, with the parties I mentioned. 
 
Go to the primary sources listed and request it from them.  Their evidence is the most direct if not the most immediately accessible.  The inconvenience is that you will have to go to each independently.  If you would rather not do this or are not willing to jump through the hoops these sources will require, or are not willing to face the questions of what you might have for them, then wait patiently and follow the mainstream print, broadcast, and web media.  This is usually the hardest thing to do, but the information is forthcoming eventually.  At least one council member, whether or not that person knows the full extent of things, has already been in touch with at least one of the primary agencies involved and had information confirmed. 
 
It takes a long time for the wheels of justice to turn.  The longer it takes, the greater the number of victims.  Therefore, while you pursue and await evidence of investigations Mr. Marquart has told no one about, you might, investigations notwithstanding, do as some others are doing.  Instead of just speaking and writing about it, that there is proof, you might choose to gather, organize, and present the plentiful current evidence to the city's voters, your friends and relations, in a clear, concise, articulate, and even pleasant way in order that we might finally solve our problems ourselves as soon as possible, certainly no later than August, and that the results of additional investigations be a series of bonuses for the city. 
 
As another writer on Tuesday wrote, we may not share similar philosophies or approach life in the same manner, but perhaps we should "unite" our efforts over this issue.  On this issue and the general health and welfare of the city, and on the broad moral plain, we share common ground, and I therefore wish you the best.


5-6-2008-05

Singing like a Canary...Please read.
 
 
Last Thursday, May 1st, I called John Marquart and asked if the Department heads could be allowed to be at the budget workshop meeting to be held Monday, May 5th at 3:00.  I explained that I wanted all of the council members to be able to ask questions of them, because we were making decisions to cut important items in their departments, including jobs.  There were trade-offs to the cuts that may not actually save money, and the Department heads would be able to explain, as they know the day-to-day workings of  their departments: personnel, scheduling, equipment, etc.  We were not provided that type of information by the City Manager, and were only provided his suggestions for cuts two days prior.
 
Mr. Marquart maintained it was not a good idea, and that he didn't want it to be their "bitch sessions and wish lists."
 
I said that it would not in any way be that, it was about being able to ask questions; how could we, as council members, make responsible decisions that impacted whole departments without being able to ask questions?  I felt that what Mr. Marquart said was extremely disrespectful to the Chiefs. 
 
He said he would think about it and I could know the next day.
 
I did proceed to ask the Police Chief and Fire Chief if they would be willing to come Monday, so that if any questions came up we would be able to ask.  They both said yes, they would, and were interested in being able to answer questions.  It seemed like the right thing to do, to ask their permission to come. 
 
I called Mr. Marquart Monday afternoon since I hadn't heard back from him, and he told me that they would not be there.  He put it forth that the Chiefs had concerns about being there.  This was not the case, as they were told it was best if they were not there.  Mr. Marquart went on to tell me that it was past the point in the budget process that their input should be heard.  I tried to tell him that it was a very simple request, and again that council members should be able to know long term impacts on departments.  There was nothing I could do or say, and I tried;  he would not allow them to be there and had many reasons that made no sense.
 
At the budget workshop, Jeff Vanlaanen said that we only wanted to "interrogate" the Chiefs, when I brought the subject up about them not being allowed to attend.  He also tried to say that it was somehow against the Charter, which it is not.  Mr. Marquart said that it wasn't proper for me to ask them.  Somehow, along with the usual residents that have been getting up at Council meetings lately, there was one who spoke and said that we shouldn't talk to Department heads, it would only mess things up.  Eden said that we could talk to them individually and report back to the Council, (lucky us!) which I replied that what if I got the information wrong?  Why couldn't we all just ask at one time?
 
People, can anyone see this for what it really is?  It is only one in many, many, repeating situations of being an elected official who is basically impotent.  This City Manager does indeed run the entire show, the entire City, exactly as he wishes.
 
Can you understand what it's like to make your 5th request for an item to be on the Agenda and get turned down by the Manager yet again?  To be continually left in the dark about most City issues because you won't "play the game?"  To be chastised because you are trying to do your job and won't rubber stamp everything?  To put forth 3 separate times to your council and Manager; Economic development that would be in partnership with the State, and actually provide high paying jobs enhancing our whole commnuity...only to be told that we need more trails and a better downtown first?  Told that it is impossible?  To wonder why you are even sitting in the chair, because it has all been "worked out" in Marquart's office or the Moose Jackson previous to the meeting anyway?  To know that certain residents with big pocketbooks are really running the City, making all of the decisions, and you could be a cardboard cut-out for all it's worth?
 
I've asked other municipalities about what is "normal"...what requests are too far fetched.  Outside of these City limits, no eyelashes would be batted when asking a logical question.  There would be input from all council members, transparency, cooperation...understanding that sharing information is essential to making decisions.  But, that is when all council members actually count, I suppose.
Outside of these City Limits, the entire Council would care about the repercussions and impact to taxpayers, departments, and good business sense.  Somewhere out there, people still care about right and wrong; but things have gone so far here under a sort of unstoppable locomotive of fabricated reality.  It has turned into a situation of "plowing down" anything or anyone who gets in their way, damn the consequences.  Well, that's progress for you, I guess.  I hope that the end result was well worth the casualties along the way and the future dessication.
 
I hope the Casino that is planned to support the Convention Center does not tear apart the City, or bring along with it unsavory elements.  I hope that all the players who are lining up and jockeying for position to capitalize on inside information regarding land purchases find it was worth the massacre.  I hope the tens of thousands that are about to be spent on an elite Michigan Lobbying Firm to help those facing recall will be traced back easily enough.  I hope the higher-up Democratic party affiliates who are supporting this in the background come to their senses and realize that the City Manager, and others, are trying to wipe out Union benefits...that won't look good for their Party....they might have some explaining to do.
I hope that Iron Mountain residents take a good, hard look at the direction they want for their City; and decide if it is Hannahville as opposed to State partnered manufacturing or Tech jobs.  Possibly, they might prefer the latter, but they will have to get intensely and quickly involved because the "powers that be" have this all mapped out for all of us, set in motion, TIFA money budgeted.....Oh, and a perpetual 4 to 3 vote on everything from the Budget to DDA members.
I also hope somebody investigates if anything suspicious ever happens to me...
 
Good Luck.
 
Tina Peterson
Iron Mountain City Council Member

5-6-2008-04

To the readers looking for some sort of proof of the allegations against Mr. Marquardt, there isn't any. This site in general is prone to wild accusations and scare tactics, however, this one is beyond belief. Does anyone reading these posts really, really believe that the city manager of our town could be under investigation by three states and a number of government agencies and no city officials would know about it? Who is this mysterious overseer of secret investigations and how does just this one person manage to infiltrate all these government agencies? Really, three different states and no proof whatsoever. Does he have an insider connection to someone in our city hall who would be able to inform him of these frightful issues? If you put some common sense into your thought process, you will realize that none of it is true. Nothing - not a word. It's made up and it's a sad indication of how far people will go to achieve their bitter dreams. Sad old men - all of you.


5-6-2008-03

Can anyone provide supporting documentation or some other reliable resource to confirm the allegation made on this site regarding a multi-state and federal investigation of the City Manager?

5-6-2008-02

Dear Iron Mountain Voters:
 
I agree with 5-5-2008-02.  Beyond all the noise and disagreeableness of many of the people supporting and promoting the recall of Dan Burke, Eden Caudell, and Robin Tchokreff, they have a point and, bottom line, are on the right side of this issue.  Many of us thought this was obvious when we voted last year.  It appears that the remaining office holders have chosen to adhere strictly to the letter of the law to serve their own purposes rather than honor the spirit of the law to serve the city.
 
It's time to unite with the recallers on this issue.  We must hold these council members accountable and recall them because they have failed to hold John Marquart accountable.  And John Marquart, through design, ignorance, and incompetence, has done and continues to do great and evident damage to Iron Mountain, being his own agent as much as the single minded deputy and soulless bureaucrat of several established business interests in town.  John Marquart seemed a good idea at one time.  He fooled many of us.  He has since shown his true colors and lack of mettle and his time has passed.  He is not good for Iron Mountain in any capacity, even for those hypnotized, deluded, and shortsighted business interests.  You can lie about the numbers or deny them, but you can't change them or the results of them.  John Marquart continues to atrophy Iron Mountain right down to and into the city's bone and cartilage even as he continues to feast on what little is left of the city's meat.  Only if the whole of Iron Mountain is fat, though, can those businesses and the others in town be fat.  But bait-and-switch, voodoo economics, and government propaganda are issues for another day.
 
Those who agree with and support city manager John Marquart and former mayor Ken Tousignant and their circle of collaborators and supporters, many of whom have been and continue to be my friends, are either purposely or inadvertently advocating and carrying out an assault on common decency and high, good values in and around Iron Mountain.  It's that simple.  5-5-2008-02 is right.  So is 4-18-2008-04.  This is not only a serious and deteriorating political and economic problem, it is a moral problem and therefore will affect every other aspect of our lives.
 
The obvious ineptness, decline, and divisiveness are certainly major problems.  John Marquart is a master of dividing people and pitting them against each other.  "Divide and conquer!"  This is a principal tool of any political hack.  And anyone who looks at the hard numbers and trends and believes Iron Mountain is in great shape and heading for wonderful times is either letting herself be deceived or deceiving herself.  But the most serious problem that stands out to me is the dishonesty.  It infuriates and frustrates me.  It's just like a huge black stain on the sky.  How do I explain to my questioning kids the unending stream of obvious lies by John Marquart and those working with him?  Please!  How do I do that?  Marquart and his comrades can publicly say or do one thing at a meeting or in the media or elsewhere on the official public record, then turn on a dime and, incredibly, either deny just as publicly that he and they said it or did it, or state and do something that is absolutely contradictory to what he and they first said and did!  And for which there is undeniable proof!  They'll put their signatures on whatever is convenient at the moment!  This boggles the mind.  About this, 5-5-2008-02 is also right.  If you are responsible enough and bright enough and brave enough to simply look, the evidence of this is available everywhere.
 
I think we are stupider than our children.  The emperor's new clothes?  What clothes?  While we oo and ah, the kids see right through this malarkey.  Which we have been teaching them to do and hoping and praying that they do.  Then they want to know how we can support and justify people like John Marquart and his ilk who are doing what we have taught the kids to be wrong.  And do you know what?  The kids are right!  They are reflections of our better selves.  They don't buy the bull.  If we believe what we teach our kids and if we want them to believe it too, we can't support the Marquart party's unrelenting dishonesty.  We can't justify what they do.  Led by John Marquart, some of this city's most prominent politicians and business leaders have been and continue to set a horrible, horrible example.  We succumb to it, support it, or do not protest it, all of which are further horrible examples.  And we wonder where kids get this junk from?  For crying out loud!  They get it from us!
 
Therefore, like 5-5-2008-02, I will quietly and privately support, campaign, and vote for the recall.  People have erred and, friends or not, we must hold them responsible.  If we do not draw the line at accountability, everything falls apart.  It's no different than disciplining our children or holding responsible the leaders in our social and church lives or our leaders at the state and national levels.  I'm not going to get on a soapbox.  At social gatherings no one will openly know I have changed my mind and I will carry on routinely and make all the right noises and poo-poo the tactics and noise of the loud and noisy recallers, etc., etc., etc.  Privately and individually, however, I will sing a different song and I will make a difference.  So will 5-5-2008-02.  I already know that.  And when she, I, and countless others, twittering our sympathy that Dan and Eden and Robin have to go through this ordeal while on our way to the polls, cast our secret vote in August, it will be to recall Burke and Caudell and Tchokreff and, by extension, fire John Marquart.  If for no other reasons than common moral decency and our kids, please join me.

5-6-2008-01

I should start this off by saying that I have been following the website almost since its inception. I have looked at a lot of documentation to support many claims made on this website. Like the writer of post 5-5-2008-02, I like to verify things with my own eyes. In the course of tracking down some of the documentation, I have seen documentation of other, serious issues that have not even appeared on this website. In other words, because of all the documentation out there, I have long thought that John Marquart has to go, and that ousting three of his supporting council members last year was a good start. This recall also needs to move forward, because these three members refuse t