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December 2008 Postings 12-23-2008-01 I don't understand why the
YMCA group, that claims they may be able raise $14,000,000, is
coming to the Iron Mountain City Council, which finds the previous
administration ravaged its finances, for a handout. This handout
is in the form of a new road off South US-2 between between the
Subway store and the Hospital parking lot. 12-20-2008-04
To 12-19-2008-01,
Sigh. Okay. Educate me. But, tell me what I want to know, not what you think I should know about it. The first fact I need to know before wasting my time - and yours - is this: How is this project going to be paid for? If my tax dollars are needed to fund this project at this time, I don't need any more facts. Sorry, that's the practical side of me speaking. Those tax dollars are already stretched to the breaking point. If I have to fund it, then the other facts are irrelevant. It's simple, really. I offer this to qualify that sentiment: I already got soaked in taxes for a new privately owned college building that won't even give county residents a lower tuition rate. You know, those of us that are paying for their building? Yes, and paying for it for a long time. What about the existing Community Center? It's tough for that place to get proper funding every year, and you want to add another albatross? What a great place that existing center could be. Also, if you can't mention those committee members names, why are they on the committee at all? Seems like a waste of time -and counter-productive - to be on a public committee and not have an official position, or worse yet, to want your position to remain secret. Another observation - Some people just don't learn. That's in reference to a member name on that YMCA website, who just recently tried to bleed Iron Mountain's last drop of blood for another albatross, but didn't get it, thank God. And one more thing, I remember reading something either in the newspaper or on this website that no one connected with the YMCA effort stands to make any personal gain from it. After seeing the members listed on that recently linked website, I find that statement very hard to believe. Laughable, even.
On second thought, save your breath.
I don't need an education, but you might. I gave myself an
in-depth education in local politics over the past four years,
and I have obviously learned something that you have not. So,
here's your lesson to learn:
Those "bad apples" you
flippantly pass off are "poison apples" in my book. I
know how nasty some of them are. You cannot change
what I know. They are reaping what they sowed so deeply and
broadly. I said long ago and repeatedly on this
website that any decent people (and I believe many of you are
that - decent) who were associating with these "bad apples"
should look at the documentation on what they were accused of
instead of getting your info from the very people who were in
question. For the most part, you didn't look, you continued to
support them, and you still don't get it. That's your
mistake. Don't patronize me, Bub.
12-20-2008-02 I am not opposed to a YMCA, however follow the link provided by 12-20-2008-01 www.dickinsonareaymca.com and see who is involved. Seems it’s the same bunch that has supported all the schemes in the past four years designed to separate Iron Mountain and its taxpayers from its excess cash which would otherwise be thrown away on useless things. Wasteful things like fire protection, decent roads and sidewalks, clean safe drinking water, and the other services we deserve for our tax dollars. 12-20-2008-01
To 12-19-2008-01,
Thank you for the vote of support
regarding the YMCA committee.
Anyone wishing to know more is
welcome to visit the website at
www.dickinsonareaymca.com. Please excuse the
slowness. It's a donated web server run by a volunteer
programmer.
Merry Christmas!
Andy
12-19-2008-01 In response to 12-18-2008-01 12-18-2008-01
In response to 12-16-2008-01, You
are right, in principle, of course. Can you tell me the names of
the "couple committee members who are dedicated to this
project.?" I truly want to know, because there are a couple who
have screwed up so often and so badly that I would almost
automatically be against anything if they were
for it. Talk about bad apples. I also want to know how this is
going to be funded in these tough economic times, and how it
will be perpetuated after that? That's a LOT of money being
talked about, good project or not.. Just like the "pie in the
sky" Mariucci project. I am not negative about a project that is
so obviously positive for our area; I'm negative about the
reality of doing it in the near future, and the people who are
backing it should know that better than I do. I stand by my
previous comments about what I think are the true motives behind
this. Don't insult my intelligence, please.
On bad apples, there were more than
a few, friend. But, you seem to have them mixed up with the
people who got rid of the ones in power. I will be having a
more positive and happy Christmas this year just because of
that. I feel no shame for helping to do what was right for our
City. I'm quite proud of what we all accomplished, truth be
told.
12-17-2008-01 Thank you, Dave Farragh. 12-16-2008-01 Folks - 12-12-2008-02 Oskar - I don't think the poster was suggesting anyone build a $14 million dollar structure without an architect and engineering drawings. I think he/she was hinting that Blomquist had an inside (non-competitive) track on the project and was pushing for it because of self-interest rather than any altruistic motives. 12-12-2008-01
Oskar, I think you missed the real
point of the post you responded to. The point was expanding on a
previous post that this very expensive project is
completely unrealistic for our area in these tough economic
times, and that there was the possibility the cost could go even
higher. Personally, I think the whole project is a red herring.
This is mostly the group that lost face in the last election
cycle, putting forth a do-good project with an ungodly price tag
so they can point to the new council members and blame them when
it doesn't go anywhere. Am I cynical and paranoid? After what
happened here in the last four years, you better believe it!
I'd rather see the new and improved
council continue to get the city back on track. There is a lot
of damage to fix, and they're doing it a fantastic job of it
already, despite all the distractions (like this one) being
thrown at them.
12-11-2008-02 That was a very thoughtful post by
poster #12-08-2008-01 reminding us of Pearl Harbor and the
blessings we enjoy. It sure put things in perspective. 12-11-2008-01 You are
correct. 6% is probably low; the proper percentage is likely closer
to 10% and it is entirely reasonable. On a 14 million dollar
construction project you may expect to pay 1.4 million for
Engineering/Architectural services AND ALSO another 10% for
construction inspection services. In other words, another 1.4
million. Oskar 12-8-2008-01 "Yesterday, December 7,
1941, a date which will live in infamy, the United States of America
was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of
the Empire of Japan." 12-5-2008-01 It was great to see everyone out and
walking around downtown last night. Thank you to everyone who
organized and participated in the event. 12-4-2008-01
A couple of comments. To
12-2-2008-02, what comments are you referring to, in regard to
Mr. Burke and intimidation? Is that something new?
To 12-3-2008-01, why would you stop
writing in because one other person (me) responded in a way that
might have offended you? Don't do that. Everyone has an opinion
and everyone should be equally heard. I'm still wondering what
you meant by your original post. What are we supposed to have an
open mind about, in relation to the rest of that post? Without
the last two lines, I wouldn't have taken it as somehow
threatening. Many people in this town have good reason to feel
threatened after the last four years of gross mismanagement of
our city government, you know.
I do have another response to your
original post. I believe Tina Peterson has been aggressively
pursuing green energy industrial jobs for our area. Hopefully,
her efforts will bear fruit, just in case those other companies
do move away or close down. I have an open mind to new industry
for the area. Heck, wouldn't it be great if we actually saw some
expansion in our quality job base around here? Maybe even see
our population start to grow again? Another question: If you
are debating as a champion of the local "good old boys," can you
tell me why some of those local established companies would
oppose new, quality companies and jobs here? Where is their
open mind?
12-3-2008-01 To 11/30/08-02 12-2-2008-02
I thought it was amusing that Dan
Burke even made a comment about intimidating people. I guess his
calling the police and filing a report against a citizen in his
ward is called something else..I wonder what it could be. Then
there was the police report against one of his co-council
people. Gee, what was that pray tell. Several people recall him
standing out side a bar in Iron Mountain screaming at a person
running for the council .OOPS. Another time he stood on the
street by his house hollering at people going to the lake. My
my.
Before he uses big words he should
look up the meaning. WOOF
12-2-2008-01
What a difference an
election can make. I have been to many Iron Mountain City Council
meetings in the past few years. The atmosphere has taken a decided
turn in the three meetings since the November election. |