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November 2007 Postings 11-30-2007-04
Hear! Hear! I couldn't agree more
with 11-30-07-01. This casino speculation is getting way too
much attention. For all we know, there may be some other type
of business interested in the area out there, or maybe Bacco is
interested in buying up and developing the area the way it did
Pine Mountain, just above Main Street and the old water tower.
I'm not saying we should disregard the possibility of a casino,
but until we investigate enough and know something for sure, we
have to deal with other, more pressing and important issues --
the boring nuts and bolts of addressing our city's daily
problems and governing Iron Mountain properly.
Seems that in the past couple of
weeks, only Marion Anderson and her bunch have forged ahead
practically and constructively about what must be done. That we
must put the right pieces -- meaning right persons --
in place to adequately address and act on the actual issues
around which the recent campaign revolved, which affect us
daily, and which must be dealt with promptly and effectively.
See 11-19-2007-04 and 11-25-2007-04. This is the direction we
should and must be moving in. And without delay. As they said:
"Come on. Let's go."
11-30-2007-03
What is this talk of expanding the
DDA by two members. Those being rumored to be Rogoni and
Tousignant. Not only that but having the DDA control the TIFA
funds for downtown Iron Mountain and elsewhere. Is this legal?
What a disaster that would be. If this is true it must be
nipped in the bud before it gains any ground. Ted you should
have some perspective on this. Please enlighten us if you could.
11-30-2007-02 I have consulted with a
seasoned attorney who confirmed that Native Americans can not just
buy land and call it "Indian Land" to build a casino. 11-30-2007-01 I wonder why people are talking so much about a rumored casino. What about real city business, of the type that gutted the power base of the city council? For instance, who ever heard of a valid reason to hold an "emergency" TIFA meeting to buy a piece of property? Was this property going to disappear if they didn’t act? What’s going on with a council member’s mother getting paid by the city for work? How can they even attempt to say that doesn't go against the intent of the City Charter? Didn’t Marquart say in the October 1 council meeting that we would have some kind of news in two weeks (from then) on the MIOSHA fines? Well, why haven't we heard anything? What about the ISO? He said something about that in the same meeting. What’s going on with the DEQ? How can a small-town prosecutor drop criminal charges brought by a state governmental agency? I can see excusing himself from the case, but, dropping charges? What about our water quality? I'm fairly certain I smelled a dose of chlorine in my water very recently. Why do we have a new cop on the road who took a civil service test, but came in fourth place. Why was he working as a cop BEFORE the civil service test? What is this new crap about expanding the DDA? This is just a partial list of issues with questions that need answers. Why aren’t we hearing anything about real city issues anymore? 11-28-2007-01
11-26-2007-01,
while this poster has a point I
think his/her logic is mistaken, there is PLENTY of room for a
Casino in the existing Pine Mtn/Timberstone property/entrance
etc. How convenient would it be to walk from your room, right to
the pro-shop(ski OR golf) or jump on your snowmobile and head
out onto your days activities, of course not before first
passing by gaming tables and slot machines. Casinos ,like wal-mart,
have the human mind completely figured out, IMPULSE spending. IE
"while I'm here I'll drop a dollar in this machine, well, just
one more, well just ONE more....." They most certainly would
prefer ALL your time be spent near the tables and games and not
spent having the time to drive to the casino and maybe THINK
about NOT spending any money. So you see I feel for Pine Mtn
road but those off Lehman should relish the extension to get
sewer and water...
11-27-2007-03
Just think of all the new,
high-paying jobs a casino would create. More counselors for
gambling addiction. More probation officers. More police to
address the increased crime rate. More store security
personnel for the increased shoplifting. More counselors for
substance abuse counseling. More lawyers. More corrections
officers. More domestic violence counselors. More safe housing
for domestic violence victims, and personnel to work there. More
personnel in the hospital emergency department to cope with more
violent crime. Maybe increased staff in the prosecuting
attorney’s office. More credit counselors. More code enforcement
officers to address more neglected properties. And let’s not
forget the money that will line the pockets of the people they
buy the land from. And the construction companies for the casino
will have steady work until it’s done. Ah, progress!
A much bigger jail will be needed.
The casino would probably even kick in a generous amount for
that. Naturally, with the big money they’ll kick in, plus the
taxes they will generate, they will expect to have a strong
voice in our local governmental affairs. But, hey, they probably
know what’s best for the rest of us, right?
11-27-2007-02 I've been told that
mention of a possible casino has been floating around city hall for
some time. It all adds up when you consider that Bacco interests
are interested in acquiring land that would be an extension of the
Lehman Rd. They are using inside information. 11-27-2007-01
Re: 11-26-2007-01
Is this saying that an Indian Tribe
can buy private property not on reservation land and
simply built a sprawling casino? Has this been done anywhere
else in the upper peninsula?
What rights do the existing
residents have in the right to put a stop to such a
venture? Do we have any rights here? As previously stated, what
access do we have to public record so a halt can be put on this
before it's too late?
If this 'slides in' without a chance
to protest I will be sickened.
Iron Mountain-Kingsford does NOT
need a casino to progress. The upper peninsula is already
saturated with casinos on Reservation Land. Yeah, let's give
our already low average salaries to a casino, then watch the
homeowner blight deteriorate further. Not a pretty picture.
NOT progress, rather, deterioration for the
average quality of life for the people of our county.
Can non native Americans own and
operate a casino? Someone with factual knowledge of
gaming/casino law please enlighten this forum.
11-26-2007-01
The ballot initiative cited in post
11-24-2007-03 pertains to non-Indian gaming and was modified by
Proposal 1 in 2004. The latter initiative specifically exempts
Indian gaming from any voter-approval requirement.
The ballot language is available at
http://www.mi.gov/documents/PROP_04-1_101307_7.pdf
There will therefore not be any
referendum on a casino. An annexation or 425 agreement probably
will not be necessary. Take a drive out Lehman Avenue. Note
the vacant land on the north side of the road as you approach
Breitung Township. Note where the city limit is. Then note the
city's proposals to extend Lehman Avenue to U.S. 2 and to run a
sanitary sewer line all the way to the city limit on Lehman
Avenue. The residents who live on Lehman Avenue and the Pine
Mountain Road have my sympathies.
11-25-2007-04
To
11-23-2007-03 regarding our earlier posting (11-19-2007-04): 11-25-2007-03 Reference post 11-24-2007-03 I have reposted this post. Only a partial segment came over from the paste. The post is in its entirety. Webmaster 11-25-2007-02 I first heard of Asset
Holding LLC on this website and also received a few low ball
offers on various lots and acreage I own in Dickinson County.
Amazing how fast it all tied together with various UP 11-25-2007-01 I doubt that Marquart
can negotiate with the DEQ with the ease he manipulates the city
council. 11-24-2007-03
The Language of Proposal E
A Legislative Initiative to Permit Casino Gaming in Qualified Cities.
The proposed law would: Permit up to three gaming casinos in any city that meets the following qualifications: has a population of 800,000 or more; is located within 100 miles of any other state or country in which gaming is permitted; and has had casino gaming approved by a majority of the voters in the city.
So it does appear that there cannot be a quiet 'behind the scenes' planning of a casino and groundbreaking without the voice of the people in a vote.
I am personally far from a 'prude' or a conservative, but feel with a casino 90 minutes north, 60 miles south (Carter, Wi) 45 minutes east, 90 minutes west, that is enough to say we are already saturated with casinos for an approval on non reservation land. Oh and let's not forget Baraga which covers northwest within these distance averages.
Also, with our area population far below 800,000, and non reservation land, I can't see how it could happen.
For the person wondering if there has been 'one scintilla' of actual information about a casino being built here, I too have heard nothing but rumors.
Perhaps the amount of giant hotels being built an area that might have a bit of a problem filling them (with what exists here now) has fueled past casino rumors? Hopefully for the hotel investors it is simply foresight for better things to come in due time, like a 4 year Bay College (?)
Casinos will put up as many rooms/hotel space on site as they need to keep the incoming revenue to themselves, and keep the gamblers "in house" for purchasing food, drink, entertainment. Local hotels would not benefit. Local restaurants, bars would be affected negatively. People who bus in to gamble do not come to shop the local stores. They come because they like to gamble. With that comes trouble in several forms.
Any Legal Eagles or fact finders out there that have other interpretations of Michigan Casino laws?
11-24-2007-02
A reminder to all members of the
LandLords Association
A very important meeting is being
held for all Landlord's on Monday November 25th at 6:00 PM at
the Dickinson County library.
It is recommended that all members
and those who have not joined yet, to be present for this
meeting.
A reminder that the Landlord
Association is extending an invitation to all of
the challengers, Dale, Dave, Bruce, Tina and Bill to bring you
up to date on the next course of action.
It is apparent that the council,
Tousignant and Marquart are trying to pass the ordinance
enforcement before all of you take office and as we told all of
you many times before, we want to sit down with a council that
will listen to our concerns and pave the way for an end to the
law suit and a solution to fix the housing problem in this
community. We know that this can be accomplished with the newly
elected members who care about all of the citizens, not just a
special interest group and a rental/residential ordinance that
involves everyone.
Hope to see you Monday at 6:00
DCLA
11-24-2007-01 Am I correct in presuming that when Marquart says "negotiating" with the DEQ, in habitual Marquart fashion he actually means "plea bargaining" with the DEQ? 11-23-2007-03 Post 11-19-2007-04
titled Come on. Let's go injects some interesting
ideas. I'm not sure you can cut the staff quite as much as that
poster suggests, but I agree there is room for cuts. 11-23-2007-02
When I called my office Wednesday
Nov 21, I was informed of comments on your public forum
regarding Asset Holding LLC of Scottsdale AZ. At the time I was
standing at "8390 Via De Ventura F-110 Scottsdale, AZ." I took
pictures of the "office" at that location. It is nothing more
than a private mailbox service. I walked inside and asked if
Asset Holding was their customer - they said yes. I asked for a
local address and they said they did not have one.
By the way I am the Houghton County
Treasurer and my county's taxpayers have also received several
offers. I first heard of this from the Baraga County Treasurer,
Pat Kissel and have talked with another taxpayer who has a
parcel in Iron County who received an offer. Now we can add
Dickinson County and Chippewa County to the list. I do know
that my county's information is not on the Internet in any way.
I am puzzled as to how they received our information. That is
why I went to their office in the first place.
By the way, they did return my
original phone call to them when I left my name and number on
their voice mail. They also returned my email by calling me at
the county treasurer's office. I left another phone message
Wednesday when I was standing in front of their "address." I
will wait and see if they return that one.
Currently I am on vacation visiting
my mom who lives northwest of Phoenix. She had a doctor
appointment at Mayo Hospital, Scottsdale. An opportunity I
could not afford to miss. So far that is all I can confirm
now. I wanted you to know what I know and that you are not the
only county affected by this company. As I stated to Houghton
County Sheriff McLean and reported in the Daily Mining Gazette,
instead of "Buyer Beware," it is "Seller Beware."
I have heard of only one really good
offer and I feel the taxpayer should take it. It would show
this company how uninformed and foolish they are. It is
for several lots in a "city plat" which is only vacant land
behind my property - no roads of course. Ahhh, I know it well.
Sincerely,
Kathleen A Beattie
Houghton County Treasurer
401 E Houghton Avenue
Houghton, MI 49931
906-482-0560
PS I won't be home until Wednesday
after Thanksgiving. Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving!!
11-23-2007-01
I’m happy to see that Dale
Alessandrini has not given up in his efforts to be a watchdog of
our city council. In the last meeting, he questioned the
state grant money that was being paid to the mother of a sitting
council member. It would seem that this situation violates the
City Charter. If nothing else, it is unethical, and does not
look good. I am fed up with this council doing things just
because they can, with no thoughts to legality or appearances.
Yes, I think ethics should have a place in our government, too.
If something looks bad, why are you doing it, council? It may
not be illegal, but why do things in such a way that puts the
city’s integrity and reputation in question? And you do it over
and over and over.
I hope the new council members can
bring back some of that consideration for intangibles like
honesty and integrity, and in the process improve our badly
tarnished reputation statewide. The new members will no
doubt have to rebuild some burned bridges, both locally and
statewide, caused by the careless and arrogant attitude of our
city government over the past four years. And you keep plugging
away, too, Dale. Someone’s gotta do it. We’re lucky to have you,
and thankful you did not give up.
11-22-2007-01 Regarding the Casino issue and "fitting" in Breitung better... we have seen by experience those that WANT their property to be in the City will HAVE their property in the city..What do you need for a large scale investment? Sewer? Water?....Hmmm sound familiar. How better to expand Pine Mtn and Timberstone development then to have city water and sewer. Throw in Casino dollars for the infrastructure and then you have "room" for a casino and infrastrucutre for development. What a resort complex that would be Golf, Skiing gambling....I see dollar signs already. Remember a lot of Timberstone is ALREADY in the City of Iron Mountain. To say the coming of a casino would only be the jurisdictions concerns is niaive (or however you spell it) because with a casino comes the trouble it brings to ALL surrounding communities, and along with it, usually, ALOT of casino dollars for those communities. But the question is, are all the troubles a casino brings worth the dollars it gives to the communities? Also remember this, Casinos have LOTS of money and money usually talks in one way or another to acheive goals. 11-21-2007-03
I would think that casino would more
than likely be a County issue rather than a City of Iron
Mountain issue. I could be wrong but would one "fit" size wise
anywhere in the city limits or would it more than likely be in
Breitung Township?
If there is any validity for an
attempt for a casino to be built in our county, I would like to
know what right "the people" have in saying that we DON'T want a
casino in our community. Can a Native American Tribe simply
purchase property that was not historically belonging to the
Tribe/Reservation and put a casino up? I would hope not. Are
they not all on existing Reservation land, save for Detroit?
This should be researched and nipped
in the bud before it is too late. A casino would be a tragedy
for our area in my opinion. There is one 45 minutes away for
those who enjoy casino life.
Is there a power of the people
(residents of a county) to vote or put a stop to it, or are we
powerless in such a venture?
11-21-2007-02 Have we become paranoid?
You bet we have! We've been lied to and deceived so many times, why
should we trust anyone who has been connected with City Hall. 11-21-2007-01 For several months I've
been hearing a little here and a little there about the possibility
of a casino coming to the area, probably at or near Pine Mountain.
Actually, does anyone have even a scintilla of evidence about this
rumor? 11-20-2007-01
Re: 11-19-2007-01:
Thank you for bringing this article
to our attention. The reason it is important is that Chippewa
County does NOT offer online property searches on its Web site.
This indicates, but does not prove, that the City of Iron
Mountain's online property search was not the source of the
records that Asset Holding used in its mailings here. That's
good news, I think.
Re: 11-19-2007-03:
The Asset Holding scam is almost
certainly not related to the casino. The properties being
sought are too widely dispersed.
11-19-2007-04 Come on. Let's go.
Dear Iron Mountain: 11-19-2007-03
That IS why the property is wanting
to be bought up in our area and from what I heard NOT at good
prices either. Maybe that is the story about SOMETHING REALLY
BIG!!!! is coming to Iron Mtn. I hope with all my heart that it
is NOT true. If they NEVER build another casino in this world
--well there is enough of that NOW. That rumor about a casino
has been floating around but someone who apparently knows
something has said it is true!@!!!!
11-19-2007-02 I too received a letter from Asset Holding in Arizona as apparently so many others have. This one shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Are Iron Mountain residents the only ones receiving these letters or are others in Dickinson County and the surrounding area receiving them also? It would be interesting to find out. 11-19-2007-01 Everyone calm down. The
asset scam is happening elsewhere: 11-18-2007-03 Here is the web site for the Asset Holding company in Arizona. http://www.assetholdingllc.com/htm/about.html 11-18-2007-02
Answer to post # 11-16-2007-01
I too have received a
solicitation to sell my property at a ridiculous price from this
Asset Holding company in Arizona.
I hope that someone can track down
this company and it's intentions and find out if it is related
to the Rich Brooks assessment in this town!
I know another person
that has received the same solicitation and it was all of his
rental properties. Where did this
company get this information and is it from confidential files
with-in Iron Mountain?
If it is, I want to know!
If it comes to be that my personal
and confidential files have been compromised, maybe I will have
to seek legal advice to hold those responsible,
(We all know who that is with the
botched assessment and the hiring)
This really makes me angry, but I
won't draw conclusions until I find out the facts!
Anyone with more info, please write
in to this web site.
11-18-2007-01 I am one of the people who received a letter from Asset Holding LLC of Scottsdale, Arizona. Right now I am angry with myself because I tore up the letter and threw it in the garbage. I should have saved it for proof that this letter is being sent to homes in the area. I was sick to my stomach when I read the posting that Rich Brook may have gone to Arizona. If someone finds out that he is involved with this scam, please let us all know!! 11-17-2007-02
Asset Holding LLC of Scottsdale,
Arizona? Is it a coincidence (or rumor) that Rich Brook left
Iron Mountain and went to Arizona???
11-17-2007-01 I was wondering if anyone knows why the orange traffic barrels were placed across the parking lot at Lake Antoine's west boat launch? Does the city still want to close the launch site? 11-16-2007-02
More on Asset Holding LLC and its
lowball offers to purchase Iron Mountain-area property:
Apparently this company has tried the same thing in New Mexico
and gotten into hot water with the New Mexico Attorney General.
The attached article ran in the Silver City Daily Press last
month:
Even if this scam is unrelated to
the city's reassessment, it raises the question of whether
property descriptions and ownership records should be freely
available on the city's website. I know they are public
records, but accessing public records used to involve actually
going to the courthouse or city hall. Running a cross-country
scam like this was impractical when everything was on paper. If
government officials and licensed realtors or title agents find
these electronic records valuable, perhaps that portion of the
site could be made available only to them, maybe with a small
fee for commercial users, but I don't see what public interest
is being served by making life easier for out-of-town con
artists.
11-16-2007-01
Has anyone else in Iron
Mountain received an unsolicited mailing from Asset Holding LLC
of Scottsdale, Arizona, offering to buy property for a
ridiculously lowball price that is ostensibly based on
assessment records? According to the Better Business Bureau,
this company has an unsatisfactory record. The BBB report is
available at
If this is a widespread scam in
town, is it at all related to the city's recent botched
reassessment?
11-14-2007-03 Please, Iron Mountain, stay in touch! 11-14-2007-02 Hello All: Thanks for all the support of this web site. This site will continue to be available to the citizens of Iron Mountain. In the near future though I will be at Deer Camp through the 18th, so the posts will be a little late. Webmaster 11-14-2007-01 For my own curiosity, I
began keeping track of the hits on the Public Forum of this website
begining this past June. I did it on a weekly basis. Here's what I
came up with, with the highest week of hits for each month. 11-12-2007-03 I remember when the sewage dumping story first broke, the city manager said something about having a walking trail system going through the dumping area. I can close my eyes and see the brand new sign in front of that brand new trail. My apologies to Roy Rogers, but, in my vision the sign says, Crappy Trails To You. 11-12-2007-02 Can the remaining
council members work with the newly elected members beginning in
January? 11-12-2007-01
Special Meeting Alert:
A Special Meeting of the Common
Council on Monday, November 12th at 1:00 pm is being held.
It is for the Approval of the
Utility Service Agreement with Breiting Township which
includes the 425 agreement area and other parcels to be serviced
by the City of Iron Mountain's Water Supply and Sanitary Sewer
System.
Unfortunately, the Agenda is set up
so that "public comment" is after the actual approval. There
are a few questions that I feel need to be addressed:
1. The agreement states: "The City
(Iron Mountain) agrees to perform routine maintenance, at its
own expense, on the publicly owned portions of the Township's
sanitary sewer systems, as the agent of the Township, so as to
maintain the system in good working order, including periodic
cleaning and flushing of mains, and minor repairs and
maintenance of lift stations, meters and appurtenances."
Will we, Iron
Mountain, need to add staff to our DPW Dept. to maintain this
and how will we pay for it?
2. The agreement states: "Rates
and charges to the Township for water and sewer service which
pertain to tap fees, monthly service charges, commodity charge
for water service, terminated service turn-on fees, and
readiness-to-serve charges, shall be equal to the City
rates."
The Township will
not be paying any extra cost..just the exact rate that
IM residents pay?
3. The agreement states: "The
Township reserves the right to provide by ordinance for
additional fees to Township customers, including but not limited
to hook-up charges and service charges in excess of the amount
provided for in Article VI, Paragraph A above. The City agrees
to include in billings rendered upon behalf of the Township to
customers in the Township, those additional fees that the
Township may impose or create pursuant to this Paragraph and to
forward 100% of the gross revenue from such additional fees to
the Township."
Iron Mountain will
also be responsible for the billing..and cost of the billing?
The Township may charge their customers extra fees?
These are just a few of the
questions that I personally have. I would like to make it clear
that I am not against this agreement, I only
wonder where the documentation is to prove that our Water System
can support this, that our taxpayers are not getting overly
burdened, and that this has been thought through
precisely.
At this very moment, we still have
not done the requirements or recommendations from the DEQ dated
December 2006 for ourselves; this includes an updated
mapping of our Water System, the East side tank, valves,
adequate staffing, hydrants, etc.
I am not positive, but it is my
understanding that once the Utility Service Agreement is
approved, everything else is a done deal. This agreement is for
50 years with an automatic renewal for another 50 years.
If anyone has any questions or
concerns, please attend this meeting.
Sincerely,
Tina Peterson
11-11-2007-02 To clarify a few things;
first, I did not mean to disparage Mr. Toedter in any way. I merely
suggested him because he was the lowest vote getter in the primary.
Second, other posters are correct in that no one knows for sure how
things would have played out had there been only four challengers.
My own belief, based on my own observations of the numbers and
probabilities, is that four would have been elected if only four had
run. 11-11-2007-01 11-10-2007-08
Please citizens of Iron Mountain, don't go there!
What I am referring to is the comments made about Mr. Toedter,
and the fact you feel he should have dropped out of the
election. He is a good man, with good ideas, with honesty and
integrity to boot. No one could have known how the election
would turn out. From the primary election results, I was sure
Dale would be seated
and I would be the one left behind. However,
look what happened there. The dirt that was thrown, much to my
disgust, hurt him in the general election.
What's done is done, and by no means do I feel the challengers
have failed. Will it be tuff? You bet! It was never going to
be easy!! The public needs to make the council members
accountable for their actions, so attend meetings and let your
voices be heard, not only for derogatory comments but for praise
when decisions have been handled to your satisfaction.
Please don't place blame, let's just all stick together and work
on accomplishing our goals.
Dave Farragh
11-10-2007-07 DEQ takes Iron Mountain to court http://www.wluctv6.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=64426 11-10-2007-06 I wonder if John
Marquart needs the help and testimony of Jeff Van Laanen in his
court appearance re: DEQ Sewage violation. 11-10-2007-05 The writer of post
11-9-2007-13 makes one very serious error in his assumptions of the
vote distribution. He states that if Tousignant had not run, his
votes most assuredly would have gone to the incumbents. 11-10-2007-04
The turmoil this city has endured under John Marquart
simply cannot go on for two more years until the next election. If
none of the four remaining members nudges or quietly talks Marquart
into moving on, this city will see far more turmoil than it has seen
the past four years. 11-10-2007-03 I was reading the news from the Frog Country website. I just cannot believe the quotes from Mr. Marquart when this sewage issue first broke.
Marquart says this debris comes from
a clean out line… What part of a sanitary sewer is a
clean line? He also says that only grit, dirt, etc are taken
out. A sewer is a sewer. If sewage has ever passed through it,
it's contaminated. Would Mr. Marquart drink from his toilet just
because it's been flushed? Of course not. The contamination
remains. Does Mr. Marquart know the difference between storm
drains and sanitary sewer lines? Or, perhaps because the word
'sanitary' is in it, he thinks they are indeed sanitary.
Enough is enough. Is this council
really so stupid? How can they continue to support this man?
Don't they care how their taxes are spent? I sure do! Let's see
how this issue encourages people to locate here.
11-10-2007-02 If the City is being
sued, then WE are being sued. 11-10-2007-01
We have a re-elected incumbent who
was heard to say in October in the alley behind City Hall, where
he said he feels is the place for issues to be discussed, not in
the council meeting, which is to be a "business meeting." That
same evening he was heard to say that they could dump where they
wanted, and they could break rules. Well, apparently the DEQ
and MIOSHA don't agree with that opinion as evidenced by the
citations, fines, and misdemeanor criminal charges now facing
the city and John Marquart.
This latest charge from the DEQ was
delivered on Tuesday and reported on TV-6 News yesterday
evening. Hoping to learn more about this issue, I looked
through the Daily "News" this morning only to find no mention of
this at all. Hmmm, I wonder if there's too much egg on their
face after coming out for the incumbents in Monday's editorial
to find that their "chosen" are facing criminal charges or have
supported the people and policies who promoted and enacted those
policies. The remaining council members never spoke out against
the dumping of sewage particles in the city instead of taking it
to the sewage treatment plant. This is not a "dead issue," so
Daily "News," where is a write-up on this story or at least some
mention of it? Inquiring minds want to know.
11-9-2007-13 It is interesting to debate that if one of the challengers dropped out of the race, it would have helped the others. But, it would have been an iffy decision, since there are generally changes in the top vote getters in the final, versus the primary. And frankly, as the attack on Dale Alessandrini showed, individuals are subject to drops in popularity due to personal attacks on them close to the election, when they do not have the time to effectively defend themselves. So when the debate dust settles, it seems the challengers took the right path, regardless of all the different angles being debated.
On the other hand, it seems much clearer that if Ken Tousignant had NOT run, then his votes most assuredly would have gone to one of the incumbents, which would have gotten AT LEAST one more incumbent reelected, if not more!
The challengers made the right decision. The incumbents didn’t. Just like real life decisions within the council over their term. 11-9-2007-12 In terms of getting rid of John Marquart, the only realistic way to do it is with a majority vote of the council. Regardless of all of the post election, emotion filled proclamations we are hearing from the incumbents, they must realize that the public has spoken and spoken loudly. If the incumbents override the challengers, regarding the clear message from the voters that John Marquart is not right for our community, then what the incumbents will achieve is to can hang in there until the next election, and then get booted out en masse. I strongly suspect, that with intellectual, rather than emotional discussion, that at least one of the incumbents will align themselves with the “challengers and the majority of the voters”, which will enable the new council to release John Marquart and find someone new, with fresh ideas, fresh energy and no baggage. Patience. The voters have spoken loudly, and things will change. Let’s give the remaining incumbents some time to think about the situation and to realize that things need to change. By getting rid of John Marquart, we can have a truly balanced council, with a new manager. As much as everyone (including me) has complained about the rubber stamp council we have had recently, if the challengers had won all four seats and thereby became a rubber stamp body of their own, it would just swing the pendulum from one extreme to the other. What we need is a diverse, balanced council that can have intellectual discussions and who will listen to the public, and not just to themselves. In other words, it would be nice to have a council that has one or more swing voter, varying for different issues, so that we have real diversity on the council, and representation of the non-unanimous thinking public. As long as John Marquart continues as City Manager of Iron Mountain, he will galvanize the two sides against each other until the next election. So, the challengers need to listen to the incumbents, and reach out to them individually, to convince at least one of them to vote to relieve John Marquart of his position, so that everyone on the council can function in a more positive manner, in the best interests of the City of Iron Mountain. In the meantime, the question might be asked, “Which incumbent(s) want to be reelected in the next election?” Based on the results of this election, it is obvious that the public has showed their opposition to John Marquart, by giving the least amount of votes to his closest ally, Ken Tousignant. If the incumbents maintain the status quo in their support of John Marquart, in contrast to the clear message the public has stated, the voters will make sure that they finish delivering the message they started in this election, next time around. Of course, John Marquart could do the honorable thing, and resign. 11-9-2007-11 From TV6:DEQ takes Iron Mountain to courtThe city is charged with dumping sewagePosted: Friday, November 09, 2007 at 4:38 p.m. IRON MOUNTAIN -- The city of Iron Mountain is facing criminal charges. The Department of Environmental Quality has cited the city for allegedly dumping sewage illegally back in May. DEQ officials previously told TV6 that the city contracted workers who dumped more than a thousand gallons of untreated sewage at two locations in Iron Mountain. Now, neither the DEQ nor the city is talking about the charges filed or the possible consequences, until the investigation is complete. An arraignment is scheduled for November 21. Too bad it didn't happen before the election, or VanLaanen would not have been elected. He told residents that the City can dump sewage wherever they wanted, didn't have to follow rules. Oh, and he said it was a dead issue. 11-9-2007-10 11-9-2007-09
Tina Peterson,
it appears you were right about the sewage dumping incident. See
this link to read about the City of Iron Mountain being taken to
court by the DEQ.
ANOTHER LIE FROM THE INCUMBENT
CAMPAIGN EXPOSED. Thank you, Jeff Vanlaanen, for ignoring yet
another real issue. Now, what about that DPW director who told
us it was a dead issue? Why is he still employed by the City?
Wasn’t there yet another city official telling us it was not
sewage? Oh yeah, John Marquart. Thanks a lot, guys. The lies
didn’t make it go away. What, the MIOSHA fines weren’t enough of
a waste of our tax dollars? Please, please new council, get rid
of the person (two in this case) causing all of this. Thank
you, Tina Peterson, for not giving up on this issue, among
others. If the council would have listened to your concerns
in the first place, this may have been avoided. That’s why we
voted you in. What a mess they have left you. You have my
sympathy.
11-9-2007-08
In the municipal
codes, Sec. 10-52 (Ord. of 12-1-03) Street Numbers Required,
states that all buildings in the city shall have street numbers
on the front of the building, no less than 3 inches high and
visible from the roadway. Fines of $50.00 per day are to be
paid if property is in violation of this ordinance. I notice
that Mr. Van Laanen's home has no visible numbers. Is he
paying his fine?
11-9-2007-07
Please read the September minutes
from the TIFA board.
No one is against the Mariucci
complex, in fact it will be a welcomed addition to the
community. However, TIFA should
have complied with their own
rules. Everyone knows this has been discussed for a long time,
but safeguards are out there
for a reason. What if this is an
environmental nightmare, who is going to pay for all that clean
up? Please be fair, everyone
would love to see this project
go forward, but why the rush? None of the new council members
are against progress, but I believe common sense should have
prevailed.
Dave Farragh
11-9-2007-06 In response to 11-8-2007-11 The word on the street is: Jeff Van Laanen will be nominated for Mayor in January with the support and majority vote of the remaining council members. There are seven members on the council I would surely hope that if he gets the nomination the vote would be three to three. I doubt if even Jeff would be dumb enough to try to vote for himself. Or at least the city attorney would advise him to abstain. 11-9-2007-05
There is absolutely no way
to know how the votes would have been distributed if
there was one less challenger.
What if: There were only 4
challengers and the Incumbent's dirty attacks had been even
heavier against all 4, non-stop?
What if: There were 5 challengers
and VanLaanen had shown his true colors to the public before
the election, instead of after on TV6?
What if: The Daily News hadn't run
their Editorial?
What if: People would just put
blame where it belongs? On the nasty, dirty politics and cheap
attacks of the Incumbent team.
Certainly, there can be no
blame put on a man like Bill Toedter who worked his
butt of, took shots, fought tirelessly, and sacrificed
everything that was safe and normal for 7 months...for the
residents of this City to have Honest Government!
When people sat down with their
ballots, they could fill in any oval that they wanted.
Something, maybe it was how Jeff VanLaanen stayed at the
"non-meeting" that Monday night, made them fill in Jeff's oval.
They may not have been aware of his conversations and comments after
the meeting, or they wouldn't have voted for him.
What the voters chose, they will be
stuck with. The Challengers will have to work extra hard and it
will be one helluva tough road. Let's not start pointing
fingers here: This current council has been successful at
making people look everywhere but at them (when things
go wrong) for 4 years!
Let it stop Now!
11-9-2007-04 Jeff Van Laanen, the
self-proclaimed future mayor, is showing his disconnect with reality
by his comments: 11-9-2007-03 I was very excited after the primary to know that the citizens of Iron Mountain spoke loud and clear about the way the direction this council has taken us. I was very concerned that if one challenger didn’t drop out that this exact scenario was going to play out. From VanLaanen’s comments, I fear we’re going to be stuck in the same muck we’ve been in. How can we be assured by the new members that things will change now? When will the For Sale signs on every block in Iron Mountain disappear? How will it be made affordable to live here? Will my children be able to find work, other than minimum wage/no benefits employment? Do I still have to be afraid that I can’t afford to live here anymore but can’t sell my house in this market? I really pray that these new council members see what the average citizen in Iron Mountain needs as well as the city as a whole. I also need to comment on post 11-8-2007-15. That post makes me very sad. The author should NOT have to apologize for anything or anybody. People need to come back to basics and treat individuals as human beings. Period. 11-9-2007-02 Re: 11-8-2007-10 11-9-2007-01
Response to post 11-8-2007-08
You are contradicting yourself from
one sentence to the next. Did you proof-read your flip-flopping
opinions? Your choice of words leads me to believe very strongly
that you are none other than Ken Tousignant himself. I’d like to
say that a man who finished fifth in the primary (Bill Toedter)
has far more right to continue on than the guy (Ken - you?) that
was supposed to have been eliminated. Ken (you?) has now been
told twice, and strongly by the voters that he (you?) is
persona non grata in our city government. Give it up. The
incredible stream of lies told by the incumbents campaign
machine is what turned the tide for Jeff Vanlaanen, not Bill
Toedter, who finished above ALL of the incumbents in the
primary. Bill is a good man, and should hold his head up. He
still beat Ken Tousignant soundly. Way to go, Bill!
As far as your sore loser comments
on the firemen, they deceived no one, but the council did.
They created the conditions for no MIOSHA fines, but the
council did. They cannot generate more fines on their own,
but the council can. That’s up to the council, and
whether or not they take their ignorant heads out of their a**es
and admit they were seriously wrong in what they did to our
police and fire departments. And fix it, damn it! Actually, on
second thought, the firemen probably could generate more MIOSHA
fines, but if they did, MIOSHA - who is not run by idiots -
would direct those fines to the fire department and not to the
city manager’s office, like the previous fines. I don’t
think the firemen are that stupid,
like someone else is.
I’d also like to say that Marion
Anderson II (post 11-8-2007-14) sounds nothing at all like the
Marion Anderson who has been writing in with excellent posts
recently. Am I wrong?
11-8-2007-17 This will not make a difference on anything, but I am very curious to see a breakdown of the write-in votes. How long do we have to wait for that? 11-8-2007-16 Aside from the stupidity
of the TIFA Board in buying the Khoury property without any
commitment from the Mariucci group, it is an ILLEGAL
TRANSACTION IN VIOLATION OF THE TIFA PLAN. 11-8-2007-15 I am gay and I am a Democrat. How Ken Tousignant and his clique behave is very uncaring of and destructive toward the gay community and the Democratic Party. It is becoming clearer and clearer that he does not care about this. He cares far more about himself than any causes he espouses -- causes he uses largely to build a platform on which to promote himself, not the causes. He reflects badly on, and does a huge disservice to, all gays and Democrats. Although it is easy for the community at large to associate all of us with him because of common stereotypes and labels, I want to assure the entire community that he and his little band do not represent me and my beliefs, nor do they represent most gays and Democrats and their beliefs in this community and beyond. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Kenny and those he runs with are the aberration, not the norm. I, and those like me, in no way want to be associated with any of the foulness he has been uttering since the November 6th election. Nor with any vileness he produced before it. With luck, perhaps he will no longer be able to fool and damage the public. Be assured, please, that the bulk of us in Iron Mountain and adjacent areas wishes he would just back off and shut up. Thank you. 11-8-2007-14
Not that it will make any difference
to the people who post on this site but the purchase of the
Khoury land was over a year in process. Check with the buyer and
seller instead of your local gossip-monger. Oh wait, that's
where all your truths come from. Also, if you are trying to say
that Mr. Corombos was at the TIFA meeting with Steve Mariucci
and didn't know that the board was meeting to go forward with
the purchase, then he's not quite the informed expert that
everyone makes him out to be. I was there and I knew what the
plan was and I'm not the one who stood to congratulate Mariucci
on his "impressive and professional presentation".
Marion Anderson II
11-8-2007-13
It seems there may be a need to
clarify:
We, the challengers, our
families, and some supporters, waited for election results at
the Junction on Tuesday night.
It was not taxpayer's money, but our
own that was spent.
There was no lying, deception or
covering up of documents: Only eating of some pizza and a
wonderful chocolate cake that someone was kind enough to make.
It was with gratitude and relief we
found out that three challengers made it, and it was
heartbreaking that the total number wasn't 4. We ran as a team
with conviction. We felt like family members, especially when
as the personal attacks were leveled at us during this
election; we would all feel that pain and disbelief. But like
family members, you lift each other up, dust each other off, and
help each other to see the big picture.
Never for one second, did we forget
how lucky we were to have the support of each
other, of friends and family, and of residents that said "hang
in there."
We made sure that we expressed our
thanks to everyone, hopefully not excluding anyone.
Most people did not stay too late,
as it was a week night.
Not quite the scandalous scene that
was portrayed, but hopefully this subject is cleared up now.
Thank you,
Tina Peterson
11-8-2007-12 Re: 11-7-2007-20 &
11-8-2007-6 1) persuade the City Council to fire him (clearly the preferable option); 2) recall one or more of the ward representatives and replace them with Marquart opponents (a difficult process that has never succeeded in this town); or 3) amend the City Charter to repeal the city manager form of government and return to the mayor-council form that prevailed prior to 1987. This would be a draconian and inadvisable step. (Imagine Tousignant with real executive power.) I believe that getting a fourth vote against Marquart will prove easier than getting a fourth vote for any of the Members-Elect's policy positions. Iron Mountain may still have a cable fee two years from now, but I doubt that it will still have John Marquart. 11-8-2007-11
The word on the street is:
Jeff VanLaanen will be nominated for
Mayor in January with the support and majority vote of the
remaining council members.
This man stated to many
residents that:
1. Council meetings are not
the place for citizens to speak up at.
2. The City Manager doesn't tell
the truth, but he does what they tell him and that's all that
matters.
3. Residents would never understand
the council's "vision" for the city.
4. The city doesn't have to follow
rules.
5. Things won't really change with
new council members.. what the council had been doing was the
right course of action.
Is this who we want to
represent Iron Mountain as the Mayor?
What can we do about it?
11-8-2007-10 Well, let's examine the
numbers. As you may or may not recall, I recommended that one of
the challengers drop out. Someone posted a well-reasoned response
arguing that for reasons relating to principles, all five should
stay in the race. Unfortunately, principles often don't mix well
with numbers. If we look at the numbers below, it is apparent to
me, as I stated in a previous post, that had Mr. Toedter dropped
out, as I recommended, his votes would likely have pushed Peterson,
Farragh, and Alessandrini above Van Lannen. Tina stated how sorry
she was that all four challengers didn't win, and she's right. That
fourth seat was huge in terms of dispensing with the current
problems. You now are a minority instead of equal (4-4) and will be
unable to do anything if the incumbents get stubborn. Hopefully the
remaining members will look at the results and decide to work with
you, but based on what I read yesterday, I ain't holding my breath. 11-8-2007-09 Addressing the Old Hospital Site. By Dale Alessandrini. Dale Alessandrini: Thanks, good luck, and more ... 11-8-2007-08 I must take a moment to
say congratulations to the newly elected council members and the
single incumbent, Mr. Van Lannen. 11-8-2007-07 Am I correct in thinking that the city manager cannot be recalled, but has to be fired, as he was not elected, but hired? I am afraid of all the harm that the council can do between now and Jan. We need to keep an eagle eye on them!! A note to Dale, PLEASE consider running again!!! How about a recall for some of the other council members??? 11-8-2007-06 I agree with the person who suggested starting a City Manager Recall Petition. This website is the perfect place to start this process and provide the new city council members with the petition this January. It all starts here. Maybe the webmaster of this site could add a page devoted to this process. 11-8-2007-05
Am I understanding this correctly? Are you telling me that TIFA
agreed to a hurry-up purchase of property without so much as an
environmental study? Do they realize what costs could be
involved in clean-up if anything is found there? And all of this
without any solid commitment from Mariucci?
It must be fun to play with other people’s money. I’m getting so
fed up with what’s been going on. Progress, yes. I’m all for it;
but with common sense and reasonable planning. This city is
running around half-cocked with our money and not giving a damn
whether we agree or not. Who’s going to care how pretty the main
corridor is when the rest of the city is falling apart and the
citizens are suffering. The city manager is supposed to work for
the council. Yet, time after time I’ve seen the council
surprised to find out what has occurred. It’s time this council
start working like a council and not like a bunch of school-kids
doing what their teacher tells them to do, with no questions
asked.
Where is our representation when a council person states that
council meetings aren’t the place for citizens to address
issues? I sincerely hope the newcomers will ask the questions,
require proper procedures and documentation, and challenge what
is questionable. This manager cannot be allowed to continue to
run this city as he pleases.
You came in, as did Marquart, on the backs of the previous
council and administration; taking credit for the many projects
already in the works. You’ve taken credit for businesses that
would have come in no matter who was on the council. Those
businesses approached the city. The city didn’t go out and drag
them here.
Those of you who are business owners: Would you want a business
manager to take over your business and ignore your wishes? Would
you allow them free reign with your money? Would you let them
take over and shut you out because you gave them that position
in the first place? Well, that’s what you have done to us.
You’ve taken control of our city and spent our money without
consulting us. When we tried to intervene, you shut us out. You
are just short-term custodians of our city. You do not have the
right to take total control away from us. Just as you would fire
such a business manager, we will fire you if you continue as you
have.
The time has come to re-examine what your job is. Remember why
you were voted in, and why your fellow members were voted out.
You were elected to be our representatives. You were not put in
those seats to take over the city and do as you please. Ms.
Caudell said that 75 people were not representative of the city.
Well neither are you seven! That’s obvious by the recent
election results. We will have our say and we’ll do it by
whatever legal means we can. Council meetings are public for a
reason. We have the right to confront and demand answers. We
have the right to disagree. We have the right to expect to be
represented. Please, don’t make us have to wait another two
years to vote the rest of you out.
Are you willing to see it? Are you now willing to let the
citizens have a say in how our city is controlled and how OUR
money is spent? You have far over-stepped you bounds and taken
our city away from us. Well, we want it back. We want a council
that listens and hears what we want. We want representation. You
will now have a choice to work with the new council members (and
they with you) or continue to be Marquart’s puppets. Let’s have
progress that benefits all of Iron Mountain. Let’s move in a
direction that fairly uses our tax dollars. Of course we all
want progress. We live here. We’d prefer to stay here and shop
here. We’d prefer to say we live in a city that cares about and
respects its citizens. When outsiders see a happy community,
then they will want to come here.
I am willing to be optimistic about the coming years. I can let
go of everything that is past; but that can only happen if you
do the same and become the representatives that you were elected
to be.
11-8-2007-04 This non-issue over who eats and drinks where in and out of town is about the silliest, pettiest, most childish debate I've ever heard. Really, who cares? Ladies and gentlemen -- please! I thought this was an issues site. 11-8-2007-03
Please get off your high horse, Mr. 11-7-2007-17. Why would the city make that purchase?
The only party to benefit would be the realtor, Stephens, for
whom Mayor Tousignant works. His mother is a principal owner of
Stephens. That realtor would likely get a minimum of about $53,000
and perhaps as high as $88,000 in commission from the sale to the
city. Then, when the city sells the property again, to Mariucci or
anyone else, that same realtor that Mayor Tousignant's mother owns
and for which the mayor works would again get roughly the
same tens of thousands of dollars in commissions, presuming the
price remains about the same. 11-8-2007-02
"I don't see things
changing a lot," "The new members have a lot to learn.
I believe that they'll find out that what we have been doing is
the right course of action."
Van Laanen is truly clueless.
I can see at least one thing
changing in 6 months when he is eligible for recall.
You better wake up Jeff or you will
find yourself out on your butt like the other three.
The voters did a fine job but
unfortunately they let one slip through the cracks.
He will be exposed soon enough for
the scoundrel that he is.
Well done to the challengers, now
the real work can begin to fix the screw-ups of the last 4
years.
11-8-2007-01
To the poster of
11-07-2007-14 and 11-07-2007-17
Grow up and find something useful to
do with your life!
Yes there was a victory party!
Yes the bar was in Kingsford
Yes it is owned by a child
of the parents who live in, and pay big tax dollars, to the city
of Iron Mountain
Yes it was a great party and it
wasn't at a bar that caters to only the rich and famous so it
can keep out the riff raff as we have been told many times.
Yes that is where Marquart and
Tousignant and the rest of the puppets hang out.
Yes that is where your
DEFEAT party was held GROW UP
Mr. Corumbus did not attack the TIFA
board the night of the last council meeting nor did he defend or
appose the TIFA decision!
He simply asked questions when, how,
why and where. Remember why your incumbents lost this election?
Citizens want answers!!!!!
Again -- grow up and accept that it
will no longer be business as usual on this city council
We now have members that
have honesty and respect in their personhood
That is what the citizens want ---
that is what they will get!
11-7-2007-32
After hearing Jeff Vanlaanen’s
comments tonight on TV6 News, do I dare give him the benefit of
a doubt that he was just caught up in a very emotional moment?
He thinks he is going to educate the new council members,
who cleaned house running on a campaign of huge change from what
he is still touting? Someone needs an education, all right.
The voters have spoken, Jeff. Tousignant and Rigoni were
voted OUT for blindly and loudly adhering to what you still
stand for.
The only reason you are still in
office is because you pretty much kept your mouth shut when
those two were filling the voters heads with false statements on
the "success" of your ideas. You better think about that, Jeff.
You are defending deceit, cover-ups, broken trust, failed ideas,
arrogance, tyranny, broken laws, short-sightedness, ignorance,
and special interest big money, and that’s about it. And the
voters know it, Jeff. And that goes for Tchokreff, Caudell, and
Burke, too.
You have a few weeks to wake up and
smell the coffee. The challengers were very clear in
what they were standing for, and because they remained clear and
focused, your ideas lost this election along with the 3
ousted incumbents. That's the biggest lesson
anyone can learn from this election.
11-7-2007-31 Why was David Brule so interested in the election? Could it be that the incumbents kept out good paying companies, therefore keeping the pay scale low? If wages go up profits go down. And a lack of choices on where to work lets the few who do employ dictate pay packages. If there was competition for workers the pay would have to be increased. 11-7-2007-30 I'm assuming the writer
of post #11-17-2007-17 was at the TIFA meeting when Mr. Corombos
praised Steve Mariucci for his interest in doing development work in
Iron Mountain. So was I. 11-7-2007-29
Our twin cities and surrounding
areas have many, many wonderful businesses that I enjoy,
including restaurants, shops, bars, gas stations, shopping
centers, retail stores etc., etc. My family and friends
frequent our favorite businesses in Iron Mtn, Kingsford, Spread
Eagle, Florence, Aurora, Niagara. Many of these business owners
live in neighboring cities and therefore pay taxes in the cities
where their businesses are located and also in the cities or
townships where they own their homes. I have always been so
proud of our local communities and how we all live and
work together and support each other. Now that the election is
finally over, hopefully all of the bitterness and hard feelings
that developed can be put behind us, and we can all live
together again in peace and harmony. Let us all look forward to
the future, stop the negativity, support each other and our
surrounding communities, and retain the pride of our great city!
11-7-2007-28 To the post of 11-07-2007-14 Is it possible that the victorious challengers celebrated “out of town” so as not to show favoritism to a particular business unlike the defeated incumbents? 11-7-2007-27 You need to check out the meaning of slander in the dictionary. It's not slander if it's the truth. When you live in the house on the hill and you didn't pay your bills and someone states that fact, it's not slander. Get over yourself. 11-7-2007-26 Dave Farragh: "Thank you" and other post-election remarks . 11-7-2007-25 Tina Peterson: "Thank you. Please stay in touch. " 11-7-2007-24
I have to agree about Marquart being sent
packing. I just hope the remaining council members have their
eyes open. The people have made it clear how they feel. If the
remaining council members don’t wake up, they will be replaced
in two years.
It’s time to listen to the people and represent
them. I, too, think that this new council can work if they just
think for themselves and not allow themselves to be led by Kenny
and Marquart.
Show us that you represent us. All of the
discord started with the hiring of this guy, and grew as the
council agreed with everything he did. This is not Marquart
City. It is Iron Mountain, and belongs to all of its
citizens. If you want this city to run without all of the
turmoil, you must represent the majority of the people.
You can’t keep spending our money on your vision unless it is
also our vision.
11-7-2007-23
Responding to 11-7-2007-14, about
having a victory party in Kingsford.
What is that? Maybe 100 yards from
the city limit? It sure ain't the Grand Hotel on the island.
Maybe if several Iron Mountain business people start using
their heads (& hearts?) and start backing honesty, and start
voting based on integrity, rather than money and special
interest, you will have something to talk about. This election
has shown the true colors of very many Iron Mountain business
people. I am saddened that so many of them don’t care about the
facts, and care only about what they think they can get out of
whoever is in office. And they made it so blatantly and
shamelessly obvious.
Until then, that self-serving bunch
of IM business "professionals" can expect no business from me.
It’s up to them to earn any trust back. That ain’t gonna be
easy, either. They have pretty much killed my ideal that all
people are basically good at heart. Boy, was I wrong, and so
were my parents for teaching me to believe that. Go ahead.
Harangue to your heart's content. It's pretty hollow and reeks
of sore losership. Just like a large part of the business
community of IM now reeks of something rotten and ugly.
11-7-2007-22 Gimme a break. When did anyone ever pick apart the current council members for going to businesses out of the city? For heaven's sake! A person wouldn't have been able to go to Home Depot or Arby's. If I remember correctly, the only times the subject came into play was when it involved tax money, or city related business that could/should have been done in Iron Mountain. If you get that picky, then I guess council people from surrounding areas shouldn't patronize Iron Mountain businesses either. What council people do on their own time with their own money is their own business. 11-7-2007-21
I
just came from canceling my subscription to the Daily News and
I'm even more infuriated. I had some time left on my
subscription and I told them I wanted it stopped immediately.
They asked, may I ask why you are canceling? I stated because of
the biased views, The News displayed in the past election. I was
told I could not receive a refund on the portion of my
subscription remaining. I was given the option of donating the
remaining balance to Newspapers in Education or giving it to a
friend or relative. I told them I did not know anyone that would
want this paper. I asked even if I had a year remaining on my
subscription I could not get a refund. She stated it was company
policy to not give refunds. Luckily for Me I only have one week
left.
11-7-2007-20
Why not start a
petition to get the city manager out of office.
11-7-2007-19
A Sincere Thank you !
It's tough to have only 3
challengers get through, especially after all that this election
has entailed...but 3 can make a big difference. It
opens up the door to public input, and it solidifies that
facts are required with nothing flying under the radar.
We will work hard and will not be
intimidated...we've been through too much and will remain
diligent. I realize that the joining together in January of
what has been seemingly polar-opposites in style and
function might be shaky at first...but if everyone has the
City's best interests at heart, there will be compromise. There
has to be.
This entire website has had a
massive amount of support and information for the Challengers.
Thank you to everyone, especially the
Webmaster.
I will do my best, I promise you.
Sincerely,
Tina Peterson
11-7-2007-18
To 11-7-2007-14:
Let’s not get THAT nit-picking! The newbies
aren’t even seated yet. And what’s wrong with going to
establishments that are not in Iron Mountain? It’s on
their dime, not the tax-payers. When it’s tax dollars
being used, then yes, spend it in the city whenever possible.
11-7-2007-17 Wow - how does the secret driver of the dream machine, Mr. Ted Corombos justify coming out against the TIFA purchase of property for Steve Mariucci when he practically kissed his boots at the TIFA meeting. Quote - Mr. Mariucci, I just want to say in all my years on the TIFA board, that was the most professional presentation I have ever seen. I commend your commitment to this community. Money talks, alright. Now at the council meeting he's all up in arms about the deal - quick change, I guess. 11-7-2007-16
Today is both a happy and sad day
all rolled into one. While it was clear from the start that all
of the challengers could not become Council Members, I
perceived that four of the five would get in.
I have formed a very special
relationship with everyone involved in this campaign, which I
hope will continue for years to come. They are all very special
people indeed. The mission for everyone was not that we become
clones of each other, but citizens just wanting to do the same
thing, "Bring THE CITY BACK TO THE PEOPLE." I am inspired by
the entire family of Dale Alessandrini, they endured the brunt
of the criticism from the incumbents ads, yet have weathered the
storm with incredible dignity. I am proud to know you and hope
you will see fit to stay involved, this community needs you.
Bill Toedter is an exceptional man also, he is a fountain of
business information that I will continue to draw on. Please
help us continue with
the mission we started.
It is hard to put into words, how
grateful I am to all of the voters
who placed their confidence in me.
I am going to strive to prove to you that your vote was well
placed. While I will do my best
to work with all Council Members,
they need to know that I will
not be somebody's yes man. I have a
definite perception of what is right and what is wrong and I
will not allow myself to fall into a web of deception. As far
as I am concerned, the voters of this community made it quite
clear they expect to be informed in all matters of the
Council. There is no reason to hide information from the
citizens. It is going to take some digging to find out the
exact state of the Cities financial condition. That is foremost
on my list, followed by a complete assessment of all management
positions. The more informed we are, the better we will be able
to correct problem areas.
Again, thank you to everyone. If
you would like to talk over any issues, please email me at
ddfarragh@chartermi.net
or call 774-8575, I am here
to listen and help any way that I can. Please feel free to pass
on my phone number to those
who may not have access to the web.
I am anxious to move forward, serving you to the best of my
ability.
Dave Farragh
11-7-2007-15 Regarding the post
for contacting the higher chain of command for the Daily News, here
is the info.. Contact person would be Bart Leeth 11-7-2007-14 I read in today's paper
that the new council members had a victory party at The Junction.
This bar is in Kingsford. Is taking your business out of the City
of Iron Mountain "in the best interest" of Iron Mountain. There are
quite a few bars in Iron Mountain that pay Iron Mountain taxes. 11-7-2007-13 There we have it! The people have spoken. I can live with that. What I cannot live with is John Marquart as the City Manager for another two years or more. I think that most (if not all) of the people on the council are at least somewhat reasonable people. Mr. Unreasonable Mayor is gone. Now we need to get that conniving manager out of here. He should NEVER have been hired in the first place. There's good reason he never held any other job for very long. He has treated citizen badly, spent money without constraint , has taken credit for things that he did not originate…. Well, it's all been said before. I can only say this: Though Iron Mountain is my home, I WILL NOT remain here if Marquart continues as manager. My house will go up for sale (and hopefully will sell in this current market) and I'm moving elsewhere in the county (perhaps Kingsford, Norway, or the surrounding township). I love it here; but will not sit back and watch this man destroy my city. I'm counting on our new council-members (and hopefully at least one other voice of reason) to take this one vital step in putting things right. With Marquart and Tousignant gone, I really think this council has a chance of working. 11-7-2007-12
The Centers for Regional Excellence
Grant was given to the area for a specific purpose.
The City Charter expressly prohibits
specific relatives of council members, including parents, from
working for the City.
Eden Caudell's mother has been paid
at least $1,200.00 - by the City - for work.
She was paid out of the above
mentioned grant money, for things not outlined in the grant.
Where is the city attorney?
11-7-2007-11
I have some questions on that TIFA
meeting held on Monday.
Was this a regularly scheduled
meeting?
If not, was it publicly posted for
the required eighteen hour minimum time for a special meeting?
If the answer is no to the above
questions, that makes the entire meeting a violation of the Open
Meetings Act, and any decisions made - good or bad - are
not legal. There is no legal justification for a
supposed "emergency" meeting, as I have heard this meeting
described. I hate to sound so paranoid, but I've learned from
experience with this now lame duck government.
11-7-2007-10 It really sickens me that the so-called mayor was a write in and got nearly 700 votes...GIVE ME A BREAK he has done NOTHING to help us but to destroy our small community and those 681 people actually would have liked to see him back in office OMG you people need your heads examined.. Also I agree with the people that want to boycott the daily news, they should have NEVER left that slandering of Dale Alessandrini go in their paper and Markell, she has showed that she is as low as low is..what does he personnel life have to do with the city council. grow up and smell the coffee he wanted to do good for this community and all you did was throw digs, and TRY and make him look bad....In my eyes YOU are the bad one and you best hope no one finds any skeletons in your closets and if they do I HOPE they are published so everyone in town can look at you. 11-7-2007-09
Is it just me or is the
closing of the Khoury property the fast closing in history? I
know it took forever when I bought my house. I guess it's all
in who you know. Perhaps the Mayor knew he had a snow balls
chance in hell of being re-elected and wanted to make sure mommy
got her big, fat commission? At least he's gone! Kenny, how
does it feel to be so disliked that you get the bottom of the
votes yet again. I would ask you how you liked the spanking
but do we really want to know? Congrats to Bruce, Tina and
Dave.
11-7-2007-08
As I sit here pondering last
nights election, one question comes to mind, why? Why would
the people single out Jeff Van Laanen from the rest of the
incumbents? They ran as a team. It's a shame people
couldn't put aside personal feelings and vote for what's right
for Iron Mountain. I suspect who Jeff is married to helped his
campaign greatly. I would hope Jeff sees that the people want a
change of how things have been handled in Iron Mountain. Take
the blinders off and look at what the challengers proof
of wrong doing by the mayor and Mr. Marquart. What I don't want
to see is the remaining council and Jeff to over ride and ignore
everything the new members bring to the table. It's a time to
heal and move forward. When three ordinary citizens can
dominate seated council like they did, that's a huge victory.
To the current council members, please see it as so and work
together for the good of Iron Mountain.
11-7-2007-07
The job's not done. Fire Marquart.
A.S.A.P. The man is ruinous. As long as he is city manager,
we're in trouble, Iron Mountain. New city council, fire the
bureaucrat Marquart. Then hire someone who has had success
elsewhere. Some one who has a good track record. The
sooner the better. Iron Mountain can't afford Marquart.
11-7-2007-06 To Dale
Alessandrini and Bill Toedter: Great campaign! Thanks for boldly
standing up for your convictions and running! 11-7-2007-05
The
election is over finally. Congratulations to Rosen, Van Lannen,
Peterson, and Farragh.
No
matter how anyone feels about each Council Person I hope we can
avoid smearing and belittling these people as they try to do
their best. I was largely neutral up to the election. I saw
smearing and negative attacks from both sides that made me sad.
Its
hard to say what will happen over the next four years, but I
hope for the best and for continued growth in Iron Mountain.
I'm not saying it was council that created that growth and I'm
not saying they didn't help--but we have definitely seen growth
and more activity in the downtown area as a trend. I want to
see that continue to happen and throw my support behind the new
Council 100%.
If
you feel like a winner in this election be a good winner. Be
gracious and courteous. Don't try to create divisions, we have
too many of those. If you feel like a looser in this election,
be a good looser. Don't look for ways to make this council look
bad, look for ways to work with them and to encourage a positive
future.
11-7-2007-04 Well, now what do you
have to say? - Bob Johnson, Blaine Hyska, Bill Verrette,
David Brule. 11-7-2007-03
Dale Alessadrini
You are the real hero in all
of this election! Because of you the three worst of the
incumbents have been kicked out of office. It is very obvious
that you were the greatest threat to them and that is why they
told all of the lies about you and slandered your family.
Hold your head up high because you
and Ted C and Bill T are the reason for victory over all of the
corruption!
That does not take away from Bruce,
Tina and Dave, because they ran on their own reputation and won
because the citizens trust them. You took the blows for them
however, and for that I have an incredible amount of respect for
you and your lovely wife Kathy.
Your day is coming Dale, but
remember that you are still a very valuable tool in helping to
clean up all of the sewage that the new council members will
have to deal with.
From a thankful citizen who lived
long enough to finally see justice come to this council!
11-7-2007-02
During the election campaign, Jeff
Vanlaanen made some strong statements showing dissatisfaction
with the city manager. Let’s see if that was just empty
rhetoric come January. Let’s see if he changes his opinion
about what the word truth means. Truth and Marquart cannot
coexist in our city government, and Jeff knows it. Let’s see
what he does about that when the facts are presented in public.
Let’s see if he’ll own up to the
huge, dangerous mistake they made with our fire protection, and
if he’s willing to let the facts determine where to go from
here. Will he have the guts to stand with the new council
members and own up to their responsibility with MIOSHA? Will he
see the wisdom in inviting the ISO to Iron Mountain to get the
opinion of our fire protection from a company with impeccable
credentials?
He is a smart man. Will he look into
the Bolt decision as it applies to the water, sewer, and rental
fee issues? Will he acknowledge that Marquart publicly made
blatantly false statements about Bolt? Will he acknowledge that
the only reason to misrepresent the Bolt decision was to keep
the people in the dark as to their rights as citizens to tax or
not tax themselves? Will he look at the code of ordinances for
this city as it applies to the cable franchise fee? How about
the City Charter violations on civil service requirements for
hiring, most notably in the police department? And on and on and
on.
Let’s also see if he’ll be willing
to explain any of this to Mr. Burke.
Jeff, the people made a huge
statement with this election. They threw the bums out, but they
believe you are salvageable. Please don't let them down.
11-7-2007-01
Goodbye Ken Tousignant.
Goodbye Doug Rigoni. Goodbye Sally Jacobs.
What an incredibly strong
statement the voters have made. Three brave candidates with
absolutely no political experience whatsoever have ousted 75% of
the entrenched regime they were battling against. They had to
put up with personal attacks of the worst kind. The lowest in
the history of Iron Mountain, and they survived. They had to
deal with big money, special interest snobs throwing loads
of money at the incumbents, and they survived. They even had to
deal with a last minute low blow from the Daily News, and they
survived. Screw you, elitist jerks.
About the complete smear job you did
on Dale Alessandrini, what did it get you? One incumbent
survived? Someone who says lying and not telling the truth are
not the same survived? Someone who says the alley is the proper
place for citizens to address council members with their
problems has survived? Shame on you Iron Mountain, for allowing
this to happen. Jeff Vanlaanen cannot hold a candle to Dale
Alessandrini.
I was already starting to regret
canceling my newspaper subscription, but what they helped do to
Dale has set that in stone. You really have egg on your face
now, Daily Rag. Anyone out there up for starting a new local
newspaper?
11-6-2007-13 Top Vote getters are as follows: Rosen (1171) Van Lannen (1031) Peterson (1020) Farragh (1018) Alessandrini (954) Rigoni (938) Jacobs (917) Bill Toedter (781) Wite-Ins (619) This is preliminary information only. Webmaster 11-6-2007-12
I
had e-mailed Tina Peterson and told Her that the challenger's
needed to get all the factual documented information they could
to the Daily News to publish before the election. She stated to
me that on numerous occasions she tried and the reply she was
given by management of the Daily News was that only City
officials could put information in the paper. Anything else
that the challenger's had, even documented facts, was considered
to be political and not news. Then after the forum the picture
on the front page showing all the incumbents including the guy,
called the Mayor, Who LOST soundly in the primary. Why the heck
was he even included in that forum? The voters had said they DID
NOT WANT HIM. Then the article talking about how much this
council has accomplished just sickens me. I to will be joining
everyone that will be canceling the Daily News. Send them a
message, hit them where it hurts in the pocket, but I suppose
they won't even miss a couple hundred cancellation's of
subscriber's because they have big business behind them. I just
can't condone supporting such a one sided biased paper. They
even stated they would not put any political letters in one week
before the election, and they put theirs in. UNBELIEVABLE
Thank You Webmaster, I think you should continue this website no
matter what the outcome of today's election is. Remember there
is another election in two years. Start the clock. There is
three other incumbents that need to go.
11-6-2007-11
I, too, have cancelled my
subscription to the Daily News. I wish there was a way to find
out how many people cancel because of that
truth-trashing editorial. Truth that the News knew all
about because they made so many people prove their words when
submitting letters. I heard that some people had to wait ten
days to get their documentation from the City, if they got it at
all, and that Mike Carey got his spoon fed bits and pieces of
documentation in ten minutes.
Even if four challengers win, I
think that abuse by the city of the FOIA law should be looked
into.
11-6-2007-10 11-6-2007-09
11-06-07-02, Something has been
bothering me since last nights meeting, and I wondered if I
heard it wrong. After getting home I wished I had asked. Did
Marquart say the closing was today? For some reason I thought
that was what I heard, and was thinking to myself that has to be
the fastest title search in history! Most closings take awhile
to go through the process, or does this mean that was all done
before they ever announced the purchase last evening. They
would never do that, right?????? I was under the impression,
after reading the 9-26-07 TIFA minutes, that the purchase hinged
on a Attorneys Opinion, a successful Purchase Agreement and
a Developers Agreement. As far as one can tell none of those
things have happened. This is a great idea under the right
circumstances, but I feel this was pushed through to quickly, I
guess to benefit the same people again.
One last comment, Mr. Burke was out
of line last evening as far as I am concerned. To be critical
of statements made by concerned citizens, yet no comment about
the filth the incumbents are putting in the paper. Anyway
Burke, you weren't even there, you left.
11-6-2007-08 TO: Bob
Johnson, Publisher and Blaine Hyska, Editor of The Daily News 11-6-2007-07 It's frightening to think what kind of damage this council and Marquart can do in the time remaining before the new council members are seated.... They are going to be very vengeful toward the citizens if they lose the election. 11-6-2007-06
It’s going to be interesting to see
how that Khoury property plays out. Now that the City bought the
property (giving the Mayor’s mom a commission), will the City
now list that property through Stephen’s again to sell it to
Steve Mariucci, giving the Mayor’s mother yet another commission
on that same property?
11-6-2007-05
THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO POSTING
10-5-2007-16
I AM WITH YOU 100% ON THE RESIDENTS
OF IRON MOUNTAIN BOYCOTTING THE DAILY NEWS, WHAT THEY DID WITH
THE MONDAY PAPER DID SHOW THEIR TRUE COLORS.
I ALSO FEEL THAT WHAT BLAIN AND BOB
DID SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THERE BOSS AT THE
CORPORATE OFFICE, THAT OWNS THE DAILY NEWS.
11-6-2007-04
From Tina Peterson
Election Day
November 6th, 2007
To Iron Mountain
Residents:
Thank you so much
for all of the support you have shown through phone calls,
emails and conversations. Yes, this has been difficult, but
worth every second for the changes that are ahead. There
have even been positive actions that happened already, just
because concerned citizens like you asked questions.
You made a difference
and you made sure that your voice was heard, no matter how
difficult others tried to make that for you. You should be
proud of that. For the Primary election, you broke
records. The council meetings have been packed. You have
written letters, talked with your neighbors, and taken in so
much information. I would bet you are the most informed
voters in the History of our City.
Surrounding areas are
watching us, even reporting on their news outlets that this
is a heated election for our City.
Today, we hold it all in
our hands. I hope that the Challengers and myself have been
able to clearly bring forward not just what we found to be
devastating behavior by this current council: I hope we
were also able to assure you of our intentions to serve you
honestly, openly, and with a keen eye to the future of our
City.
Our strengths fit
together to serve you with a whole package: Wisdom,
experience, knowledge, business sense, compassion,
humility, balance,
fairness, and common sense.
No matter what decisions
you make today, I am so very proud that we have the right
to have this process in place. I cannot imagine being
unable to have this freedom, or being unable to stand up for
our beliefs without fear. Saying Thank You to our
Military, our Veterans, never seems enough for what they
have endured and sacrificed...but it is the best we can do
along with a prayer for their safety and for their families.
Please think of that as
you vote today. Julie LaCost reminded us of our freedoms so
eloquently at the Forum last Thursday, she gave me
goosebumps. I'm sure I didn't do this justice, but it is
from my heart.
Sincerely,
Tina Peterson
11-6-2007-03 Today I canceled my subscription to our daily rag newspaper after reading the unsigned editorial in yesterdays paper which endorsed the incumbents. This paper did the same thing several years ago during the race for prosecutor involving Jay Finch and Jeff Poupore. I encourage other subscribers to do the same and cancel their subscription. Robert A. Jayne 11-6-2007-02 One last scam was pulled
of yesterday. The TIFA Board bought the Khoury property for
$875,000 with no guarantee that Mariucci will take it off their
hands. TIFA could be stuck with that piece of property for a long
time. 11-6-2007-01
Election day is here. While
the weather today is less than
desirable, it will only take a few
minutes to vote and
you can go back to your nice
cozy home. Maybe you would like door to door service today. We
will be happy
to help you out. Call
774-6821 and we will get you to the polls.
Let's show them, the primary was a
correct statement of your feelings.
11-5-2007-18 Post # 11-4-2007-07 -
the Follow the Money post - now applies to the Daily News as well. 11-5-2007-17 A final note from Dave Farragh before the election. 11-5-2007-16
Of all of the dirty and sleezy lies
the incumbents have told to the public to try to win this
election, (and they have done so beyond belief) I believe the
worst dirty trick of all is tonight's daily news paper article
printed the day before the election.
I just received a call with
information from someone who attended the city council meeting
tonight and she said that regardless if the challengers win or
lose tomorrow, the citizens of Iron Mountain are going to call
for a city wide boycott of the Daily News Paper!
I was also told that at last count,
there are already close to one hundred that said they are going
to cancel their subscription after the election! I will join
them!
I thought the daily news was a town
paper that stayed impartial and printed the truth with out spin,
but I see now that Marquart, Tousignant and the council members,
along with those with big money and large corporations, in
conjunction with support from the daily news, are all one in the
same.
Blaine and Bob Johnson, --- You have
sold your reputation and integrity for a few dollars and
embarrassed your staff and citizens who support your
paper! It will not be forgotten!
I am appalled, shocked
and disappointed in this local paper, it's editor and manager!
Can anyone's integrity sink any
lower?
11-5-2007-15
Hi Everyone- Tomorrow is election
day, as though I need to remind you. The right to vote is a
great privilege, and I am proud to live in Country where we can
express our views. I hope that many of
you feel the same way and try to make a difference.
I want to thank all the
people who have taken their time to call, talked to me on the
street or emailed their support. Your vote of
confidence is greatly appreciated no matter what
happens. Hopefully tomorrow we will have something to celebrate
before digging in and making the changes you desire.
Myself and the others have tried
to bring you facts that could be verified. I have given you
information that I truly believe
is correct and true. What you do
with that information is certainly your choice, but please vote
wisely. The incumbents
have treated many of us like second
class citizens. Using terms like, because we can or I
wouldn't change anything, when more appropriate answers
should have been given. That alone, without the facts is indeed
a sad situation. To think we count so little that personal
business should be dragged through the papers, with little
disregard of the effects on family and friends. I think this
truly speaks of their regard for other human beings. I am glad
we did not revert to those tactics, but stuck to the issues.
I hope you will take advantage of my experience and put
it to work for you over the next four years.
Together we can make a
difference. Your vote would be greatly appreciate.
Thank you for listening, and have a good evening. Dave Farragh
Candidate for City Council
11-5-2007-14 What's up with the Truth Website?? It hasn't been updated in weeks. I clicked on the candidates link and there is not one word from any of the incumbents. I guess they have nothing TRUE to say. I guess they have posted all the TRUTH they can. What a joke!! The challengers in this election have been open and have discussed the issues using all media types. The incumbents only speak as a group and only when directed by Mr. Tousignant. And they only say what he wants them to say. The fact is that this current city council almost always votes unanimously on all matters. They think and act as one. I need a change. I need someone to sit on this council and question everything this City Manager is doing. I guess it boils down to this. I don't have a problem with the incumbents, I have a problem with the City Manager. The incumbents had their chance at watching him and his conduct and have failed miserably. To many incidents to list. I feel very confident that anyone of the 5 challengers will do a better job of babysitting our problem child, the City Manager, than the current Council. 11-5-2007-13
Well. The Daily News has shown its
true colors. Not that their story was inaccurate. It’s what they
didn’t say that condemns them. They have to know by now that our
manager and the incumbents have been making false statements
about many issues. How many recent writers had to back up their
letters with documentation in support of their claims? What did
the News do with all that information, besides completely
neglect to mention it while shmoozing the incumbents?
Unbelievable. The constant lies - the violation of the public
trust - are a bigger story than the new businesses the
News mistakenly gives the incumbents credit for, and that's not
even mentioned.
Their editorial story amounts to a
well-timed ambush attack on the only candidates who are telling
us the truth. And they KNEW it! It is now nothing more than an
opinionated rag, bought and paid for by the so-called elite.
Disgusting.
11-5-2007-12 Bruce J. Rosen: Final thoughts before the election . 11-5-2007-11 Some final pre-election thoughts from Dale Alessandrini . 11-5-2007-10
I'm writing today in total
disgust of the Daily News' article "Be An Informed Voter". It
sounded as if Mr. Marquart himself wrote it. I wonder how much
of a "donation" the paper got for printing such garbage? I will
never subscribe to that rag sheet again. I hope it comes back
to bite them and people start canceling subscriptions. I don't
even live in Iron Mountain and it makes my blood boil!
11-5-2007-09
Extra! Extra! Read all about it!
The Daily News sells out its integrity to Big Money!
I am outraged! On the day before the
election, the Daily News prints an opinion column in support of
the incumbents. After all the documentation they demanded from
anyone who wanted to put in a letter, they still did this. I am
canceling my subscription, and I will NEVER buy that sellout
newspaper again. Is that even legal?
11-5-2007-08 Final thoughts before the election. The number of people in this community, who have worked, donated money, attended the forum, and offered information and encouragement is unbelievable. I do want to extend a heartfelt THANK YOU to all those who have helped us! We have some very talented and dedicated people who must be utilized when specific issues are considered. We must draw upon their knowledge and experience to enable us to make better, more informed decisions. If we can change the council with this election, this will be done. It seems as though I have gone through the emotional gauntlet. Tomorrow is a turning point for Iron Mountain with every vote that is cast. There is so much that needs to be changed to bring our city back together. I feel that we the challengers have provided valuable information to many citizens and the incumbents. Please, regardless of whom you vote for, take the time to vote. Our system of democracy works when the majority of voters dictate the results of elections. It is your right and responsibility to vote, so make sure your vote is counted. Again, thanks to everyone for all your support and encouragement I would sincerely appreciate your vote on November 6th.
Bruce J. Rosen Candidate for Iron Mountain City Council 11-5-2007-07
From Tina Peterson:
Tomorrow is Election
Day.
Our local newspaper, The Daily
News, has declared their support for the incumbents by
stating, near word for word from their flyers, that these
incumbent candidates are responsible for all that
is listed towards the bottom of the article.
When the Daily News Editorial
Department claims that there are "two strongly opposing
forces", I wish to make it crystal clear
that what we stand for is Honesty, and Respect to the
citizens.
We are for
progress, we are for economic development,
we are for community events, we are
for informed residents, we are for
the safety of all citizens.
City Park Pavilion was not
handled properly and could have been taken care of for much
less money, with a tremendously better outcome. It
still has the old floor, which rips wedding dresses; and a
tiny kitchen which is a caterer's nightmare. It was the
outcome of decision-making without asking the obvious
questions to the obvious people. The handicap access was
also not correct and needed railings or soil built up to
prevent a wheelchair from tipping off the edge.
While the corn-blasted interior
is attractive, does this whole project really add up to
$162,000?
The incumbents have tried to
imply that they are spending "millions in grant money" on
improving our parks, and this is just not
the truth. In four years, they corn-blasted the inside of
the pavilion and painted the outside. The North Side Ball
Park was a huge effort by volunteers,
headed up by Vision 20/20. For the incumbents to take
credit for it has been sickening, and a serious slap in the
face to all that donated their time, muscle, and sweat.
There are many businesses on the
Editorial "list" that were either:
1. Already in the works before
this council took their seats.
2. Moved from one location in
town to another.
3. The Council and Board gave
such a hard time to that they almost left or were near
unable to remodel.
Most residents know the truth
about which business received the hard time. My daughter
worked for one of them. There are many more businesses that
are not on the Editor's list that gave up and did
not locate here.
Yes, the City has a new
multi-million dollar water system: And 4 positive
Coliform tests in 2 years! This water system was
planned to go in before this Council. All the current
council had to do was accept TIFA's offer so that we could
have saved millions of dollars in long term
debt, properly maintain the water system,
and try not to lie about it all. But that proved to be too
difficult.
For some of the other things on
the Editor's list: For Goodness sakes! Are we to
understand that you support the incumbents because amongst
all of their lies and cover-ups, they may have done a few
things they were supposed to do
in four years? Things that anyone sitting in those
seats should have done? Things like, approve a Motel being
built? Things like approve a business relocating across the
highway? For that, this Council stands for "progress?" For
that, they are "impressive?" No matter that they have
treated residents so poorly, pulled the wool over their
eyes, lied to them, were rude to them, stole their voices,
ignored health standards, ignored State Agencies, and most
of all...flirted with illegality over and over?
That's one heck of a judgment
call on your part.
Editors, you ask the question,
"who do you trust most with the future of Iron Mountain?"
You have seen documentation, yet you have chosen to
stand away from honesty and I cannot begin to imagine the
reason why.
Trust has to be earned. The
incumbents have had 4 years to earn the residents' trust.
Instead of treating it like the priceless gift that it was,
they instead chose to betray it.
My phone number and my email
address have been readily available, but not one single
Editor from the Daily News contacted me to talk about
my ability to give the City it's "best chance for growth and
improvement." Or my "trustworthiness."
So, I guess your Editorial
is biased and one-sided...maybe you weren't fully informed
about all of the candidates when you wrote
it?
Tina Peterson
Candidate for City Council
11-5-2007-06 On the reassessment
issue: 11-5-2007-05
My experience as a tourist
in Iron Mountain, Michigan, or,
Up yours, Iron Mountain
Hi, all. I recently visited your
backwards little city, and I can’t say it was a pleasant
experience. I was minding my own business, when what to my
surprise, I was singled out simply because of my ancestry. What
nerve! You people made a public spectacle of me. I was the butt
of your jokes. It was the most embarrassing day of my life.
As if that was not bad enough, I can
say unequivocally that you have a serious drug problem. In full
view of several witnesses who never batted an eye, I was
drugged, mugged, tied up, driven out of town, and dumped
unceremoniously in a field. And no one lifted a finger to help
me. I got the hint, you arrogant SOBs. See if I ever visit
again.
After reading this website, I see
that your fine city government treats all of you the same way.
Good luck with that, sheep, because I don’t have to put up with
it.
B. Moose
11-5-2007-04 Bruce Rosen addresses fast-tracking business development in Iron Mountain . 11-5-2007-03
Ghostwriter.
Of
course, it may be just a coincidence and a long shot, and I have no
idea if there's any way to prove it, or if it's illegal, but if you
look at the behavior and subject matter of Ken Tousignant and how he
expresses himself, then look back at the behavior and subject matter
of Phil Dougie and how he expressed himself, the likeness is
uncanny. Uncanny. I invite you to review the material
yourself.
And bring official photo identification with you, like your driver's
license, state I.D., or passport. Call County Clerk Dolly Cook at
774-0988 if you you have any questions. 11-5-2007-02
Post # 11-4-2007-09 really got me
thinking. I am very nervous about this election. Why? Because of
what happened in the 2006 County Commissioner election. The vote
count was so close that it generated an automatic recount.
Surprise! They were not
able to do an automatic recount because of some kind of
"discrepancy" in the ballots "secured" at city hall.
Frog Country reported that the votes
from ward 3 could not be recounted because the seal had been
"fixed" on the ballot box. 12-07-2006
TV6 News reported that the ballots
could not be recounted because the serial number on the back
side of the box was not recorded in the poll book.
12-08-2006
Anyone out there remember this? How
do you feel about that now, with so much riding on this
election? After all the blatant lies put forth by the
incumbents, I would not put anything past them to try and retain
their seats. Is there any legal way to keep those ballots secure
from people (Marquart, for instance) who have a LOT to lose in
this election? I am deeply concerned about this.
11-5-2007-01
After seeing the advertisement in
The Daily News on Saturday from Mr. Verette and others, I'm
flabbergasted. How can they say that there has been a distortion
of the truth when they haven't been to a council meeting to hear
what is happening. Where they are getting is
information? Second hand, probably from the city manager and
mayor. How responsible is that for such people who have had
credibility in town over the years? They can say that the
information from city council meetings and in the media have
been sensationalized, but if they haven't been at the meetings
what are they drawing their facts on? Mr. Verrette was at one
meeting to present information about the plans for his property
and then left. The other people listed in the advertisement have
never been at a meeting. I may not be a challenger, a
firefighter, a landlord or a member of any special group, but I
do attend every meeting of the council and find it amazing that
people that don't attend can spout information that isn't the
truth. I would challenge Mr. Verrette, Mr. Brule, Mr. Furno,
Mrs. Kelly and Mr. Reiten to attend a meeting and see what Joe
Citizen has to say. It is easy to criticize the people who cover
the meetings and write off anyone that is dissatisfied with city
government as a bunch of kooks that don't know what they are
saying. You may have had a good rapport with the current council
and city management, but the ordinary citizens who they also
represent aren't happy and that's obvious. Come out of the ivory
tower that you are in and see what is happening to the rest of
the residents of Iron Mountain when they try and approach the
council and city manager about a problem and are walked on
because they don't have a "name" or enough money in the bank.
Can't wait to see what the election results will be tomorrow.
11-4-2007-11 The mayor has to lie. I'm sitting here tonight reviewing all the campaign literature, media coverage, stuff gathered from the web, last week's forum, etc. This river of continual lying, including a series of coverups, by the mayor, city manager, and council members must be unprecedented. It's phenomenal. You can't say it's unbelievable because there it is, on the record beside the evidence of what they're lying about. You have to marvel over it. The dishonesty is unrelenting. It makes my mind reel. One item has driven me to at least one conclusion about this lying. I'm sifting through and mulling over all the available paperwork and time/date-stamped digital material I was able to get that IME sent to the city or kept as records back in 2005, when it was trying to set up a meeting. I recall the buzz about it then and seeing some hardcopy. Despite all the evidence, the mayor claimed last week that the company never made an approach to the city. Clearly it made several. Clearly the mayor lied. But after seeing all of the tech consortium's documentation, I understand why he lied. He had to. Though I don't condone it, I can't blame him. If he admits publicly to blowing this opportunity by not even setting up a meeting, he would get one vote on Election Day -- his own. Maybe John Marquart's too. Furthermore, if the city didn't lynch him, it would tar and feather him and run him out of town on a rail. There would be absolutely no chance of him winning re-election. But if he lies, there's at least the chance that he can get away with the lie until the polls close Tuesday. I don't know though. The repercussions of him, Marquart, and the others murdering this opportunity may be far-reaching. Once people know how they botched this, the city may eventually hammer the mayor and the others no matter what happens Election Day. Bad enough that they blew it, but then to try to cover it up? That's pretty sad. When you have to rely on lies. And it seems to apply to most of the issues. The conduct of the mayor and other incumbent candidates illustrates everything that's become abysmal and disgusting about American politics over the past generation. We've never had perfect government locally, granted, but I hate seeing this dirt and deceit of the last four years come to town. I just hate it. 11-4-2007-10 Dave Farragh responds to the incumbent candidates' brochure . 11-4-2007-09
If at all possible the challengers
should post poll watchers at the polls on Tuesday for the entire
length of the voting. You never know what plans the incumbents
might have........
11-4-2007-08
A reminder there is one more
Council Meeting prior to the election. Tomorrow, Monday
November 5, 2007 at 6:30pm. If you feel you still have
unanswered questions from the current Council, now is the time
to ask them?
11-4-2007-07 The old expression -
Follow the Money - seems more than appropriate as we close in on the
election. 11-4-2007-06 The
election Tuesday will give me much information about the future of
Iron Mountain. 11-4-2007-05 Defending herself and others from ugly false accusations, Tina Peterson gets her licks in . 11-4-2007-04 Dave Farragh recaps the Forum and clarifies some issues. 11-4-2007-03 "Why me?" 11-4-2007-02 Learn from a
recent election. 11-4-2007-01
Voters of Iron Mountain
If anyone needs a ride to the polls please to not hesitate to call, The Challengers have people that will do that. Please call 396-8008 this is Dale Alessandrini's Number. 11-3-2007-16 William Verette and
David Brule Sr. are arrogant enough to put out ads for the
incumbents for all the benefits they have received from the city.
Arrogant or dumb? 11-3-2007-15 WHEN YOU FEEL YOUR BACK
IS UP AGAINST IT... 11-3-2007-14
From Tina Peterson
(Keeping this one short is
incredibly tough for me, but I'll do my best.)
I cannot say enough about Ted
Corombos. Not only is he a walking encyclopedia of City
knowledge, he is a man of character and integrity. These traits
are valuable to him, as they are to all honest and
decent people.
He does not lie. He does not
mislead. He does not misinterpret. What you see is what you
get....and what you get is of the highest quality possible.
His family has endured the political
life for so many years, and yet took it on again to support what
they believe in their hearts to be right. His Wife and Son are
so kind and compassionate, such amazing people. It has been
nothing but an honor to come to know this
family, and I was especially proud to introduce my children to
them. My kids needed to know that such people existed; people
that have courage and faith and believed in fighting a good,
honest fight for the residents of their City.
I know that Ted Corombos will not be
hurt by what was written in the paper. I know he is too strong
for that. I also know that residents in this town would never
believe the insane garbage that was written. I just think it is
frightening that the incumbents stoop to that level. They have
publicly attacked every person or group who supports the
Challengers, have spent thousands of dollars doing that, and
then had the audacity to include the Ad signed by Mr. Furno, Mr.
Verrette, Mr. Brule, etc. This particular Ad is like being in a
"Twilight Zone" episode: Tactic of intimidating elected
officials and citizens? Disrupt both the process and functions
of city government? You've got to be pulling my leg,
right? Exactly who is trying to intimidate who? If
finding out that the City Manager and Mayor lied repeatedly,
covered up documents, cost the taxpayers thousands of dollars in
unnecessary fines, and sent documents to vacant rentals to hide
that fact...if TALKING about that is being
intimidating according to these pillars of the community, then
this is more frightening than I first thought.
I challenge the signers of that last
Ad, and all of the "attack" Ads: What exactly are you all hiding
that you have to fight so dirty, so diabolically , to try and
discredit so many decent and honest people? So far, as each
piece of truth has come out and lies by the local government are
revealed, the "kitchen" is indeed becoming very hot. The levels
that you are sinking to reek of desperation to me.
It's been jaw-dropping enough to
listen to or see blatant lies on all media outlets while I hold
the documents in my hands, let alone watch it happen in front of
a High School auditorium full of people.
It has also been tough to be accused
of not wanting progress, when all you wanted was honesty. Tough
to look around my City and realize that this Council's words
have been as empty as their souls. Tough to witness citizens
being treated like dirt, unless their pockets were overflowing
or their last names were "correct." Tough to be accused of
attacking, when you and yours were the ones being attacked.
It has been 4 years of so many
families that have been hurt by the negligence, arrogance, and
stubborn pride of this council. Our community just cannot
survive another 4 years of their brand of "progress."
Where is it? Where? This "innovative way to collect revenue"
they talk about, is it in how Mr. Marquart supposedly pressured
Rich Brook to put in higher values during the reassessment? Or
is it a series of fees that will not stop where
they are now? If they say they are not taxing you, but they are
"fee-ing" you, isn't the only difference that you
didn't get a chance to vote on it? If they pay out hundreds of
thousands of dollars every year on unapproved, unnecessary
expenses and yet say they cannot afford to pave your roads, is
that progress? If Jeff VanLaanen says that the City cannot
afford to increase staff at the DPW, but we can afford what
equals years of a worker's salary paid to STS Consultants for
"plans" that never materialize, is that progress? Is it progress
for Doug Rigoni and Co. to push for 3 years towards a way of
Police and Fire protection that Illinois has banned and
Wisconsin is near to banning? That States all across the
Country recognize as being unsafe? How about the City Council
saying no to an annual $2000 for Medical First Reponder funds,
but saying yes to thousands for flower pots in the same meeting?
Is it progress to put near a million dollars into keeping one
business, let many others leave, and give the rest a terrible
time about setting up shop? To lose the chance of almost 1200
jobs? Do they know what that amount of jobs could have
done for this community?! How about the progressive way they
have taken credit for volunteer work or projects that were in
the works before they came on the scene?
Or is it progress to just
keep smooth-talking your constituents about a "vision" that you
have had 4 years to work on, hasn't materialized, and that you
never let them in on in the first place?
I know for a fact that State
Agencies that have dealt with our local government have been
treated poorly, rudely, and were left with a terrible impression
of them. Is that progressive?
I cannot emphasize this enough...you
would not have to lie repeatedly to the residents of your City
if you were taking care of them.
Heck, if I'm going to get accused of
attacking, I might as well get my licks in.
Sincerely,
Tina Peterson
11-3-2007-13 "They just plain
lied." 11-3-2007-12 Regarding the
city-council election Candidates' Forum of November 1 at IMHS: 11-3-2007-11
I'm a citizen too, darn it! 11-3-2007-10 In response to
11-2-2007-22 11-3-2007-09 Dear
Iron Mountain Citizen, 11-3-2007-08
One more thing. 11-3-2007-07 Citizens of Iron Mountain
Have any of you noticed how
low some people in this city have stooped? We now have some of
the wealthy individuals and companies in Iron Mountain trying to
use their wealth to buy votes for the incumbents?
It’s quite obvious that pay back time has
arrived for those who received special favors from this council.
Perhaps these people have lost sight of the
past and forgot how their companies became wealthy and
prosperous! It was through the support and patronage of the
common citizens of this community, not the city council.
Some of these people are personal friends and
I am appalled that they are using their money to buy votes!
Citizens please listen ---if you think your
vote never counted before, I assure you, it is a very critical
vote in this election. We cannot allow this election to be
bought!
Four more years of this present council will
destroy this community.
Another
concerned and disgusted citizen
11-3-2007-06 I protest! 11-3-2007-05 See the ad
in Saturday's paper where Bill Verette and David Brule Sr. are
signatories. 11-3-2007-04
The incumbents have quite the odd
opinion on the MIOSHA fines. Especially Doug Rigoni. Throughout
this whole campaign, he has made statements, verbal and in
writing, that it is the firemen’s fault that the city has
received fines. He has said, in writing, that turning in the
City is ridiculous. Then, at the candidate forum, he went so far
as to comment on how they handle that kind of thing "in the
private sector, ha ha ha."
How do you handle that kind of thing
in the private sector, Mr. Rigoni? The context of your statement
leads me to believe that you would get rid of the people who
report safety violations that the City has ignored. Is that what
you meant? And you chuckled about it? You must realize that
forum was recorded, and that your suggestion is illegal, yet you
still had the nerve to say that? Do you speak for all
businesses when you say that? I doubt it.
I would urge any firemen - or anyone
else for the matter - who has reported unsafe working conditions
to MIOSHA, should immediately file a case with the
discrimination unit of MIOSHA. Your complaint should be based on
Mr. Rigoni’s comments, and the fact that none of the incumbents,
or even those council members not up for election, have come out
with a statement condemning Mr. Rigoni’s intimidating and
bullying attitude. If this council is reelected, they may try
to find creative ways to get rid of you firemen, but they
weren't smart enough to hide their prior prejudice toward you,
just because you want a safe work environment. Good luck and
stay safe. And file complaints to protect yourselves.
11-3-2007-03
Dear Mayor Ken Tousignant: 11-3-2007-02
Doug Rigoni wrong again! In Mr.
Rigoni's recent political ad concerning TIFA he stated a lot of
false information. In the very first line of his ad Mr. Rigoni
states: One of the hardest things as a council we have had to
deal with is keeping our hands off of TIFA. According to
documentation, this Council has had no problem spending every
dime of TIFA funds. They have spent money on areas not even in
the TIFA District and plan on continuing too do so!! In fact,
Mr. Rigoni via his association with Bacco Construction Co. has
made out quite well from TIFA funds over the last four years.
Next Mr. Rigoni states: The TIFA
law allows the City to collect all taxes in the TIFA district
and use them for economic development and other various
projects. The FACT is that the TIFA Act allows the
City to capture tax increment revenues on increases of assessed
value above the initial assessed value of the TIFA District
only for projects in the TIFA Plan. In 1985 when the TIFA
Plan was adopted, the Initial Assessed Value of the TIFA
District was $25,206,000. In 2007 the assessed value of the
district was $83,217,913. This gives you the increase or TIFA
Capture of taxes on $58,011,913 of assessed value.
Now having voted on a pass
through of Police and Fire Pension taxes himself, and the
agreements TIFA has with the County, and other aspects of the
TIFA Act, Mr. Rigoni should have known that TIFA does not
capture all taxes in the District.
Mr. Rigoni goes on to state:
Presently the State reimburses the School District just under
$650,000.00 dollars a year to make it whole for the TIFA
capture. Make what whole? Since the passing of proposal A, the
State pays the School District on a per student basis. The taxes
that TIFA captures for School Operating are lost revenues to the
State. This is why the State can’t afford to pay our teachers
what is due. The local TIFAs collect and keep the revenues for
School Operations, and the State is still obligated to fund the
schools. Wonder why the State is broke? Of course Mr. Rigoni
also fails to realize that the amount of revenues collected
under School Operating will never again be close to the $650,000
figure he stated. He should have known that when the initial TIF
Bonds were paid-off, along with an agreement the City has with
the County that this figure will continue to decrease until TIFA
expires. This is evident, if one took the time to look at tax
records. In 2005 the City/TIFA collected $859, 144, 50 of Iron
Mountain and Breitung Twp. Schools Operating revenues. In 2007
this figure was $418,843,86. This is a significant
decrease. But of course Mr. Rigoni believes that preparing for
the inevitable end to TIFA is bad finance.
Mr. Rigoni continues on about
non-city money. Does Mr. Rigoni think that every tax-payer in
this City, not in the TIFA District, is not getting stuck with
higher taxes to make up for the loss of these revenues? Beside
the $908,657.61 in City Operating Revenue that TIFA captured in
2007, let's see what else is affected.
County
Operating: $316,029.01
County
Library: $46,472.58
Health
Department: $10,327.24
Senior Citizens
Programs $20,654.48
State Education
Tax: $144,963.46
School Operating: IMSD/BTSD
$418,963.46
School Debt.: BTSD
$26,344.37
Intermediate
School: $4,049.31
Technical Education:
$23,812.67
Special
Education: $23,812.67
Then Mr. Rigoni does a little
name dropping that Steve Mariucci is planning on building on the
North Side of town, and where do the challengers think the money
for infrastructure improvements will come from? Well I'm not a
challenger but my vote is from the DEVELOPER! Mr. Rigoni is
right on one thing, you and I shouldn't pay for it.
I thought TIFA just paid for a whole
new infrastructure through the North Side? Mr. Rigoni must be
thinking of a 1 or 2 Million dollar parking lot as
infrastructure.
I would rather see the City
become financially responsible and realize TIFA is coming to an
end. The time to prepare for this is now, and a good City
Council should take a look at TIFA. I/WE will be voting for
change!!
Yes, it is funny how the whole story
makes a difference!!!
11-3-2007-01 What's with this
attack ad against Ted Corombos. He's not running for anything.
The ad a talks about infrastructure deficiencies. More
infrastructure has taken place in the last 20 years under the
watchful eye of Ted Corombos than ever in ANY 20 year time frame.
Have the incumbents gone completely bonkers? 11-2-2007-22 There must have been only four candidates participating in the Candidates' Forum Thursday evening, at least according to the impression created by the picture on the front page of Friday's edition of the the Daily News. It is rather interesting and highly amusing that the four candidates pictured (three bona fide, one whatever) just happened to be the incumbents. This logically aroused a high level of curiosity in my mind, so I called Blaine Hyska, the Daily News editor. After indicating my displeasure at the obvious bias presented, and listening to several fumbling statements on his part, Mr. Hyska advanced the lame explanation (actually excuse) that if all nine candidates would have been pictured, they would be unrecognizable. This reasoning flies in the face (no pun intended!!) of the hundreds of photographs previously printed in the Daily News with not only nine individuals, but very often many more than nine individuals pictured with recognizable visages. Does this mean that from now on pictures with more than four individuals in them will no longer be featured in the Daily News and be rejected for publication? In my opinion what Mr. Hyska really meant to say was that he wanted to make sure the faces of the incumbents were recognizable. So much for the press being the guardian of truth and presenter of fair and balanced coverage! This treatment has amounted to nothing more than free political advertising for the incumbents. It is quite obvious that the editorial board of the Daily News has now revealed its vision for Iron Mountain per Dr. Feleppa's request in a recent letter appearing in the opinion section of the paper as resting with the incumbents. Quite interesting when one learns that Mr. Hyska doesn't even live in Iron Mountain. I believe that would classify him as a carpetbagger, to use a term created during the post-American Civil War Reconstruction period. The Daily News should remain unbiased, and has no business trying to influence the election outcome of Iron Mountain. Besides the obvious arrangement of including all nine candidates in the picture, other possible formats could have included two incumbents and two challengers together (if Mr. Hyska wanted to preserve the new policy of the four-person picture), or a small (but recognizable, ha, ha!!) picture of each candidate, which has been done in the past, but apparently no one on staff at the Daily News thought of alternative photographic arrangements that would have at least presented the facade of objectivity. 11-2-2007-21 In response to the post 11-2-2007-11 I would like to clarify a few details. Yes, the fireman in Kingsford did not want to become police officers, similar to the IM fireman, the question should be why? They all know they could make more money and police work in a small town really is not that hard to do. Could it be they are more concerned about the ability to respond to fires that they put their personal gain aside? Escanaba is full Public Safety and now they have a 3.2 million dollar budget, the same as IM and Kingsford combined, but yet, their staffing is so low they have to drive the squad care back to the station to get the Fire Truck when a fire occurs. It is not impossible for public safety to work; it just cannot save money when it is done right. As far as Iron Mountain should have gone PSO back then I would say you are wrong, the two cities should have combined the Fire Departments into 1 single department that would serve both cities, and the same could have been done with the Police. That would have saved both cities money and maintained the best service in both Police and Fire. The insurance rating is something we should be concerned with and I assume your comments about 2 PSO’s are worth 1 fire fighter are referencing this. This is accurate as far as the rating schedule for ISO, this can be viewed at www.imfd.org click on ISO than scroll down about 6 pages and you will find the notice from ISO to Marquart informing him of this. All of the ISO letters have been obtained by FOIA’s directly from the city of IM. An on duty part-time firefighter is also equal to 2 public safety officers and also be aware when the PSO cannot get to the scene in a timely manner they are not counted at all. ISO is a complicated system and everyone is tired of hearing about it, the fact that IM is preventing them from coming in and doing their independent risk analysis is reason enough to understand the current system will not stand up to the test! The idea of a PSO being able to get to a fire faster then the fire truck is not hard to understand, a squad car is faster than a 30,000lb fire truck, but what good is it at the fire? Do you shine a spotlight on the fire and it goes out? Traditional police do carry fire extinguishers and are expected to use them if the situation is suitable and safe. There are more than a 1,000 fire departments in Michigan and about 25 Public Safety Departments that use cross trained police, hardly a shinning example of everyone doing this. Just because a few cities in the UP have done it does not make it a good decision. The idea that the IM firefighters are not accepting of change is not accurate either, look at the challenger’s proposal, the use of part-time firefighters to save money and provide a greater service is a change, change for the better! Kevin Pirlot 11-2-2007-20 In Oct. 31 newspaper the Mayor’s Ad calls for the Full integration to a Public Safety Department. This again is another attempt at misdirection to confuse the voters Nov. 6th. Let’s look at what full integration really means.
This would be similar to Kingsford in structure, now let’s look at how effective they are in saving money. In the early 70’s Kingsford employed 9 fulltime fire fighters that worked the typical 24 hr shifts. Those FF’s just like Iron Mountain FF’s worked an average of 56 hours a week, with this schedule they maintained 3 FF’s on duty 24hrs a 365 days a year. Note that fire fighters are exempt from the 40 hour work week and do not receive overtime until 53 hours each week. Move to all public Safety positions and the overtime exemption no longer applies, public safety officers (PSO) work the standard 40 hr work week, generally a 12 hr shift. Now look at what it takes to staff those same 3 positions in the fire station, 3 pso’s per shift and 4 shifts to maintain coverage all year, Yes this means it takes 12 public safety officers to provide the same coverage previously covered with 9 fulltime firefighters. Public Safety Officers are also paid a higher wage than a standard police officer; typically this would be about $9,000 per year more than the fire fighter positions that have been replaced. Add it all up, and see if the taxpayer is going to save money. These examples are only covering fire station staffing. Fire fighter staffing 3 per shift with 3 shifts total = 9 personnel at average wage of 38,000 = $342,000 yearly wages Public Safety Officer staffing 3 per shift with 4 shifts total = 12 personnel at average wage of 47,000 = $564,000 yearly wages Plus all of officers covering police duties are paid more How will the Mayor and the incumbents pave more roads when they are going to spend an additional $222,000 per year in wages just to cover the same duties now??? This answer is simple drop the fire department staffing to 2 public safety officers; surely he thinks that will save money, right? Wrong again 2 PSO per shift with 4 shifts = 8 personnel at average wage of 47,000 = $376,000 yearly wages This is still $34,000 more than keeping the 3 fulltime fire fighters and in Iron Mountain’s case the 13 other police officers would be making the $9,000 per year in extra pay totaling $117,000 in additional costs. Grand total $151,000 per year more in costs for less coverage than we have now. The Challengers plan of using part-time fire fighters will save nearly $80,000 per year and provide more service to the taxpayer’s. Who will be able to pave roads??? 11-2-2007-19
This is a response to post
11-2-2007-11 on public safety
Please see the attached, 3-page
document. It is a letter from the ISO, dated December 17, 2004.
This letter answers your gripe "Two public safety officers are
worth one firefighter." Look at the top of page two of the
letter for this direct quote from the ISO:
"Public Safety Officers:
Public Safety Officer (PSO) or other persons who participate in
fire ground operations and can meet all of the following
criteria are credited on a two for one basis."
It is NOT a case of the IM
firefighters making something up, as you can clearly see. Are
you now going to say that the ISO is wrong? Go ahead, contact
them, tell them you are offended, and suggest they change their
criteria. I wonder how far that will go. Not only that, but I
hear that Kingsford Public Safety is in deep doo-doo because of
operating the way you suggest in your post. You gotta love the
way MIOSHA is so accommodating with the FOIA law.
So, go ahead, urge Kingsford to
invite the ISO for a visit to reevaluate KPS. Then the citizens
can thank you for raising all of their property insurance rates
because your protection is SO much better. Change for the better
is great, but I think it’s incredible that anyone can say with a
straight face that Public Safety is better. Documentation and
fact - they always win these arguments.
11-2-2007-18
Normally, I wouldn't help the
incumbent election campaign machine in any way, but, it's
probably too late for this to help them, so here goes.
Hey, encumbrances, oops, I mean
incumbents, you had an expensive ad in the newspaper today
attacking Ted Corombos. It's only fair to let you know that Ted
Corombos is not running for office. Please check the ballot if
you are not sure who is up for future attacks. Hope that helps.
11-2-2007-17
So as you know " IMITATION
IS THE SINCEREST FORM
OF FLATTERY". So what do
you think challengers? It seems there is another pamphlet being
passed around by the incumbents and it looks a lot like yours.
Have they no original ideas of their own. Inquiring minds want
to know?
11-2-2007-16 I just read an ad in the
paper by the incumbents titled "Why is Ted Corombos So Angry" 11-2-2007-15
I didn't attend the forum last night
but have some comments. It's too bad, in my opinion, that the
candidates did not stick to the issues at hand and instead
focused on trivial items such as where the DPW Director lives.
From what I know, the Director's wife is an employee of the City
of Escanaba and State Law is that when two municipal employees
are married, they are exempt from residency requirements. Seems
that the challengers didn't do their homework!!! Not to mention
that the current requirements in the charter are null and void
because they are more stringent than the State's requirement.
And Dale's statement in the paper that "he should live in the
city that pays his wages" is priceless!!!!! Half of the
employees at DPW don't live in Iron Mountain and one even lives
in Wisconsin!!!!!!! It's too bad the challengers can't find
some real issue to deal with.
11-2-2007-14 Any parents out there
find any similarities between dealing with kids and dealing with the
incumbents? 11-2-2007-13 Have you
seen the brochure that the incumbents are peddling around town?
These is our "innovative" and "visionary" incumbents, you understand. 11-2-2007-12 The Necessity of Voting. By Bill Toedter. 11-2-2007-11 I was one of the first Public Safety Officers with Kingsford. We were not exactly in favor of the concept when brought to our (police officers) attention and most surly was not on the fire dept side. Research was done, Escanaba was consulted and the concept was adopted. It works. It might be water over the dam so to speak, but that's the time IM should have adopted it also. In fact the fire dept in Iron Mt. still lets it out once in a while that two public safety officers are worth one firefighter. What a crock of horse dung! The public safety officers can get on a scene much faster that a conventional fire dept can. They can, in some cases put out small fires before the main trucks even arrive Some of these senior firemen should read Toffler's Future Shock and learn how to deal with change....a change for the better for all concerned. 11-2-2007-10
11-2-2007-09 You know something that really
troubles me about the incumbents at that city council forum Nov.1?
Except for the mayor who acts like some city slicker know-it-all
political blowhard, the incumbents have this
aw-shucks-be-my-friend-and-everything-will-be-fine-attitude and play
with the facts kind of loose and easy. But they're inaccurate and
they try to just slip them past you to look like they know what they
are talking about, or steamroll you quickly with false facts, just
figuring most people aren't gonna bother to check them. 11-2-2007-08
I would like to thank
those that attended the forum last evening. I have never
claimed to be a speaker and I wish I could have been more
eloquent. I found it easy to lose my train of thought while
watching the time limit. On the two part questions, I know I
missed giving you complete answers. I will put together those
answers for you and post them on this site and in my blog.
If you would like me
to answer any questions for
you prior to the election you can contact me through the web
site ironmountaindemocracy.com. I really can do much better on
a one to one basis and would be happy to do so.
One thing brought to
my attention later last evening by a respected friend is,
some people are talkers and some
people are doers. I know I am the doer, my job performance
speaks for itself and that is just how I handle life in
general.
I also want
to again thank the AAUW and our moderator Julie LaCost, for
doing a wonderful job putting on the forum. You did a great job
making it as easy as possible for those of us who do not speak
in public often.
Please
exercise your right to vote on Tuesday and thank you for
listening.
David Farragh
11-2-2007-07 Last night I went to the election forum at the high school and you know what really fried me? To see that cocksure little bantam liar mayor with the really high opinion of himself up on stage with the 8 real candidates and stealing the show with those pointless highfalutin vision vision vision talking points!!! What the heck is he even doing up there? Is that legal? If him why not anybody else who can be a write-in? Why couldn't anybody in the audience answer a question? Why not me? I'm as much a write-in candidate as that spoiled and pompous little strutter! I'm telling you that's not right! It may be legal but it ain't right. He got voted out but good at the primary and he shouldn't get any special treatment and privileges. Fine if he wants to be a write-in, but not with the candidates on the ballot. What the heck did we have the primary for, for crying out loud?! Doesn't that tick off anybody else?! Who does he think he is?! Darn near takes the city apart, gets booted with like only 4 votes, and has the nerve to come back and tell us his vision is the only thing that can save Iron Mountain. God help us! And I mean that sincerely. 11-2-2007-06 But, Mayor Tousignant, what about the Web site that never happened that's still happening? Interesting. The Mayor says the IME thing never happened. Well, that's true enough, tho in a way he certainly doesn't mean. But I see that the domain name and Web site that IME claimed to reserve and publish as a sample Web site for the city's review, ironmountainmichigan.org, not only is online (tho not the same sample site as when I first saw it in 2005), but, as Mr. Hogan claimed in his December 6, 2005, letter, was picked up by the State of Michigan as the city's official site almost two years ago and still remains listed as such at Michigan's Web site. That's an awful big and real and evident thing that "never happened," Mr. Mayor, and at a site over which neither IME nor Hogan have the least bit of influence or control. See it for yourself. I emailed Mr. Marquart about it a year ago last summer (2006), but I never heard back from him and the link never changed. Must have been a smoking gun he figured no one up here would ever stumble across. Or he just didn't pay attention. I bet he'll be hoppin' now. Better get there and take a look, folks, before he can trash the evidence. http://www.michigan.gov/som/0,1607,7-192-29701_31713_31714-97062--,00.html Scroll down to Dickinson County and find at Iron Mountain the link that, according to the mayor, "never happened." 11-2-2007-05
At the forum last night, I saw
nothing that I haven’t seen a hundred times before with these
city council members.
Tousignant, our infamous mayor and
politician with his arrogance and deceit, laying it out for the
people like he was the hero of the city.
I have learned over the years that
Tousignant is a bully as long as he has his friends along his
side and is able to lie to the people without any one to be able
to confront his lies!
God help Iron Mountain if this man
gets back into the council again!
Good old Rogini, --- tells it like
he knows what he is talking about while all the while he is full
of lies and deceit like the mayor! His interest is in Bacco and
his pay check,, not the interest of the city.
Jeff VanLannen, -- Forget it! He is
so brain washed from Marquart and Tousignant that he just talks
for the sake of talking and has no idea what he said.
Then Sally Jacobs. Nice flowers and
nice grass and nice clean streets, but not a very nice person
behind your back!
No doubt, my vote is for the new
challengers, after last night’s fiasco of lies and cover-ups!
11-2-2007-04 Master of the straight-faced, matter-of-fact distortion.
Were any of you at the Candidates Forum at IMHS Thursday night? Did you hear the mayor's reply to a question about IME trying to set up a meeting with the city a couple of years ago?
If I were a mayor or city manager and a young and growing tech business wrote a letter requesting to set up a meeting about free wireless Internet, a free city Web site with all the bells and whistles, and wanting to discuss the possibility of relocating its headquarters in town, I don't think it would be unreasonable to vet that business, respond to it as fast as possible, set up that meeting, and at least learn what's involved. Especially if that's what Im always preaching I would do, without exception. Then in good conscience I could say either "Not interested" or "Let's talk some more."
What I do think would be unreasonable, and personally embarrassing, would be not to respond to repeated overtures, then years later stand in front of an audience from whom I am seeking votes, trying to cover my tail by saying that that business wasn't forceful enough and should have been beating down our door at City Hall. You know -- I would find it unreasonable, and unjustifiable, if I found myself in effect saying that my town had been playing hard to get. Or saying that I'll do whatever it takes to get new business in town as long as that new business gets down on its hands and knees at city hall and pleads with me at the top of its voice. I would find it especially unreasonable if the business didn't need the city but the city needed the business. And that the business was, figuratively at least, beating down the door for more than 12 weeks anyway in a rational, civilized, and commonly accepted manner. Wow. There's chutzpah and then there's chutzpah, hey? That mayor. You will seldom see a guy shovel bull with so much panache and so little conscience. Besides, I don't think that mayor and his manager and council really want to attract any sizable new outside businesses. Small ones like Walgreen's and already connected ones like Mariucci's, fine, but they're more interested in protecting their control, which might be otherwise threatened, and padding the treasuries of those corporate players already in town. I don't think anyone needs more evidence than the last four years to see that. 11-2-2007-03 I went to the candidates forum tonight. It was really kind of drag actually. A setting like that seems so unnatural for all of them. Each seemed unimpressive in his or her own way. Tina Peterson was above expectations. And Alessandrini did better than I thought he would. I still think I'm gonna vote for 4 challengers though, just to try something new. The problem with the incumbents when they didn't sound just plain empty is that when they said anything interesting, the words contradicted the reality of the facts and of most everything they've dome so far. The mayor's best at that. He's a real bag of smooth hot wind but what's he got to show for it all but a bunch of impressive sounding words? I just don't like that guy. Sort of an unpleasant man with a tight little taped-on smile. Don't trust him either. That's my problem with all the incumbents still. No matter how fancy and optimistic they talk, the city just keeps getting worse. And what they're doing scares the heck outta me. Whatever they say will happen, the opposite happens. We just keep going farther down the tubes. When all is said and done, no matter what they say, we're way worse off than we were 4 years ago. Throw the bums out, I say, and give the new bums a chance. They can't do any worse, and if they do, we'll throw them out and keep electing new ones till somebody gets it right!!! 11-2-2007-02 You know, the live Candidates' Forum Thursday night is all fine and dandy in principle I suppose, but I really don't know a damn thing more or anything different than I did before it. Except what the candidates all like all dressed up on a stage, and which ones are better public speakers than others -- which really doesn't mean squat. Turns out Mayor Tousignant is the best speaker, but he doesn't have anything to say. Says nothing well though. 11-2-2007-01 To Jane Kamper and
the American Association of University Women, terrific job hosting
the Candidates' Forum Thursday evening. Thank you. To Julie LaCost,
thanks for moderating and doing such a wonderful job. To all of the
candidates, well done and thank you. 11-1-2007-04
11-1-2007-03 "Do to others as
you would have them do to you." Luke 6:31 11-1-2007-02 Re: posts 10-31-2007-02 and 10-30-2007-02 , these are 2 companies that Iron Mt. has lost because of unprofessionalism by the management of city hall. Yes, new companies have come to town, but offer minimum wage, part time and no benefits. We built a Jr. college that we now will have to have a tax raise to pay for, and the graduates will have to look elsewhere for meaningful employment. This is progress????? 11-1-2007-01 Dear readers: |